# Change formula for PVP rating
**URL:** https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/change-formula-for-pvp-rating/20547
**Category:** HWS Voting
**Created:** [September 9, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/change-formula-for-pvp-rating/20547 "2019-09-09T17:46:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@CyIvIpak](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/CyIvIpak)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/change-formula-for-pvp-rating/20547/1 "2019-09-09T17:46:59Z")
Change formula for PVP rating from Kill/Death to Kill - Death, its more adecvate.
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### Author:  [@mmm](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/mmm)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2019, 9:07am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/change-formula-for-pvp-rating/20547/2 "2019-09-15T09:07:35Z")
+1.
for example: there are 2 players
1 player has 250 kills and 30 deaths
2 player has 10 kills and 0 deaths
Why is 2 player in Top #1 and player 1 in 10th place?
This is not serious.
It turns out: A player who spends time on pvp is worse than some mouse who is trying to get a kill and run away?
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### Author:  [@DarthMyrten](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/DarthMyrten)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2019, 10:26am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/change-formula-for-pvp-rating/20547/3 "2019-09-15T10:26:44Z")
Current rating is clearly broken, when I stopped playing around 1.5 months ago I was like #3 or #4 on EU, now Iām #1 š
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2019, 10:33am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/change-formula-for-pvp-rating/20547/4 "2019-09-15T10:33:04Z")
> [@mmm](#):
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> Why is 2 player in Top #1 and player 1 in 10th place?
Good point.
I think the subtraction of kill - death makes sense in Empyrion.
The classical K/D like in Battlefield is not good in a 3 month long Survival game.
Will be active in the new season.
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### Author:  [@CyIvIpak](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/CyIvIpak)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/change-formula-for-pvp-rating/20547/5 "2019-09-15T10:50:40Z")
For notmeat players i think mb combination formula like that: K-D+K/D
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### Author:  [@mmm](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/mmm)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/change-formula-for-pvp-rating/20547/6 "2019-09-15T11:33:03Z")
and add table Top 10 death ! š
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/change-formula-for-pvp-rating/20547/7 "2019-10-01T14:27:50Z")
This is a new vote suggestion.
This original vote got implemented with HWS 10.X season.
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/change-formula-for-pvp-rating/20547/8 "2019-10-01T14:27:54Z")
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2025, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/change-formula-for-pvp-rating/20547/9 "2025-12-31T14:17:19Z")