# Clarification on digging under land claim device
**URL:** https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/clarification-on-digging-under-land-claim-device/22654
**Category:** š Get Help
**Tags:** support, exploit
**Created:** [February 9, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/clarification-on-digging-under-land-claim-device/22654 "2020-02-09T20:55:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@Politary](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Politary)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/clarification-on-digging-under-land-claim-device/22654/1 "2020-02-09T20:55:16Z")
======= NOTICE FOR HELP =======
**What happened:**
=\>Iāve seen TAW member digging under our base with land claim active by shooting ground with laser rifle. As far as I know, thatās illegal. I warned them that Iāl make a ticket if I see it next time, but @Zackey_TNT said that itās a common tactics on NA and itās perfectly legal. Since there were cases of both warnings and no warnings after use of this tactics, Iād like to know the official stance for use of this tactic.
**Player(s) with issue:**
=\> Politary, RaveKittiez
**Server:**
=\> NA
**Time (cb:time):**
=\> 00:20
**Playfield:**
=\> Golden globe
**Structure Name(s):**
=\> Cross v4-1
**Structure ID(s):**
=\> 6773617
**How can we help you now:**
=\> Clarify the official admin stance on this tactic
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/clarification-on-digging-under-land-claim-device/22654/2 "2020-02-09T20:58:56Z")
Good question.
There were situations in the past were it was illegale indeed.
It was a time though were the Config.ecf worked and weapons indeed did no damage to the Land Claim Zone.
By now, it seems itās bugged or even intentional from Eleon. I donāt know.
Until I have a clear stance on it, I declare it as legal tactic.
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### Author:  [@420Inc\_Space\_Ranger](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/420Inc_Space_Ranger)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/clarification-on-digging-under-land-claim-device/22654/3 "2020-02-09T22:29:57Z")
I donāt see why it would beā¦ all it takes is someone to dig to the person n kill them. Problem solved.
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### Author:  [@420Inc\_Space\_Ranger](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/420Inc_Space_Ranger)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/clarification-on-digging-under-land-claim-device/22654/4 "2020-02-09T22:31:25Z")
Shooting through blocks/terrain is a different matter n shouldnāt be allowed. š
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### Author:  [@Kittiez](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Kittiez)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/clarification-on-digging-under-land-claim-device/22654/5 "2020-02-09T22:36:41Z")
I"d like to clarify that this post is misleading.
I dug under his base with a drill because they didnāt have a landclaim active at the time.
I dug up so that I had visual on his base blocks and I shot at that. I wasnāt shooting through terrain.
The problem could have easily been prevented by simply having a landclaim on your base, which you added after I had already tunneled to you.
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### Author:  [@Politary](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Politary)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/clarification-on-digging-under-land-claim-device/22654/6 "2020-02-09T23:33:49Z")
The point of this post was to get a clarification on this tactic, since there were cases of this being both legal and illegal. Not for accusing or getting someone banned. I have nothing personally against it, but I donāt want to be banned for using it ābecause another faction was doing it before and nobody reported itā.
@Kittiez From my perspective the sequence was: Iāve seen you almost under the base\> I placed land claim\> I heared shots underground\> I started digging to your location.
There was no way for me to see that you already tunneled all the way to the blocks before LC was placed. Hence the assumption of shooting through terrain.
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### Author:  [@Kittiez](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Kittiez)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/clarification-on-digging-under-land-claim-device/22654/7 "2020-02-10T00:46:24Z")
Thatās fine, Iām just clarifying the situation for you since you seemed to be pretty steamed at the time and werenāt listening to anything we were saying.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/clarification-on-digging-under-land-claim-device/22654/8 "2020-02-13T00:46:26Z")
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