# Donation changes | Full Wipe 16th march
**URL:** https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592
**Category:** đ° HWS Announcements
**Tags:** donation, fullwipe, roadmap
**Created:** [March 3, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592 "2018-03-03T17:15:57Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/1 "2018-03-03T17:15:57Z")
Hey [@everyone](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/groups/everyone),
[the second Survey](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-survey-ii-please-help-us-to-improve-hws-hws-for-2-years/10523) is so far one of the best result in terms of feedback we had for a very long time! (over 250 participants)
We really want to thank you for your support in that way and it really helps us a lot to be on track and continue to improve HWS and Empyrion non-stop!
# Donation changes
One thing I wanted to take from the feedback directly and before the full wipe, are some donation adjustments. (_otherwise some people could get a bad feeling if we change it afterwards_)
While the majority has the same thoughts as our whole concept to be not a âPay to winâ server, there were tons of feedback how to improve and change it.
As I often said this topic is a very sensitive one but itâs very important for me / us. Not because we want to get rich out of HWS or have any shady intentions at all but because you should feel comfortable in the first place. Understanding the overall gap between costs for our work / servers and benefits we give you in exchange.
That said just a little other explanation about the costs. As you know it isnât only the Hardware / Software costs per server we have to pay but also the PayPal transaction fee and, because we live in germany, taxes. It is quite complex to handle taxes from outside Europe and we got help for that.
However, just a little insight I wanted to give you that we have the best intentions in what we are doing for you and some wondered about it.
**The changes below and in general everything what we are doing is never set in stone and subject to change at any time but it addresses the most of the feedback for now.**
- The RP amount of the Resource packages were reduced from 15, 10, 7, 5, 3 to **10, 7, 5, 3, 1**
- More cautious adjustment about **permanent** and **per season** packages:
- Keep Structures (Holiday) from 15 to **10**
- Keep EGS Level from 15 to **10**
- Keep EB Level from 25 to **15**
- Keep Blueprint Resources from 15 to **20**
- OCD Level 5 from 20 to **25**
I also facelifted the design of the page here and there to make it more understandable on the first look
**Before** :
**After** :
I know there were more feedback about changes but we have to iterate them on a later stage.
> **For everyone who donated the last 14 days for more Euros than we changed now, can contact me via a PM**
> _please understand that we canât compensate retroactive all price changes for everyone_
Thank you everyone for supporting us that way! We really appreciate it a lot!
# Full Wipe announcement
As always, this time a bit earlier than 1 week
# on 16th march, during the day
we do a full wipe of HWS EU and NA.
What that means for you in detail is written [**HERE**](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/game-wipes/4380)
> **Again this is NOT the Alpha 8 == HWS 8 full wipe! We wonât have any big new fancy changes!**
It just means 3 months are over and the HWS 7.X season ends.
Also an announcement for HWS 8 taken from Discord again:
> 1. Orbital Auto Miner fuel is NOT transferred
> 2. O2 / Oxygen Generator will be wiped from the OCD (not in the game anymore)
> 3. It is (sadly) NOT connected to Alpha 8 but with our 3 month season system. But since Alpha 8 comes probably way more later we wonât repeat the disaster from last year. As soon as Alpha 8 comes out we must full wipe again
> 4. ^ Take this into account for some donations. For Donator planets we still guarantee a 90days run time, no matter the seasons / full wipes. For keep EB etc. levels for example we will migrate it to Alpha 8 if it is released within 30 days after the 16th march. Otherwise it will be a new donation for Alpha 8.
> 5. The full wipe will be used to migrate to a pre version of HWS 8
> 6. As soon as we know more we will let you know(edited)
Nevertheless many others and I think that it was one of the best season so far!
It made me really happy, even though I always had to think about HWS 5 and what the key of that season was so I can reproduce it đ
Anyways we also learned from it of course and the next season (until HWS 8 comes out) will be hopefully a âfixâ of the current main problems such as
- better PvP experience (e.g. better limits)
- better PvE experience (e.g. more missions)
- better resource experience (e.g. better distribution here and there)
- better Starter experience (surface wipe + more rewarding POIs)
I am very busy with RL and other Eleon things at the moment but I try to make these four things possible.
For HWS 8 on the other hand I have already something new and special prepared⌠some saw it maybe đ
Supergates and Wormholes will create a new storyâŚ
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Stay tuned everyone, thanks again and proper Survey results will be released probably before the Full Wipe, hence [you can still participate until then](https://goo.gl/forms/fs6OQLh3PSuUzXuk1)!
Your HWS Team
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### Author:  [@Wiseman738](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Wiseman738)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/4 "2018-03-03T17:21:59Z")
Looks awesome, cheers for all the hard-work Rexxus! Those stargates! âHallowed are the Ori!â đ
Best regards
Wise.
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### Author:  [@SirKnumskull](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/SirKnumskull)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/5 "2018-03-03T17:30:31Z")
What will be removed from OCDs? Hydrogen and oxygen generators? Anything else?
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/6 "2018-03-03T17:33:55Z")
> [@SirKnumskull](#):
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> What will be removed from OCDs?
> [@SirKnumskull](#):
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> Hydrogen and oxygen generators
> [@SirKnumskull](#):
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> Anything else?
No. We would announce it otherwise way before.
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### Author:  [@TokenBlack](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/TokenBlack)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/7 "2018-03-03T17:39:53Z")
Rex server is like a fine wine , Just keeps getting better and better with age. Thanks for all the work you put into it.
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### Author:  [@Quasar](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Quasar)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/8 "2018-03-03T19:14:06Z")
One big question I hear everyone asking is how long will any 1 season donator packages last if we purchase them now for after march 16th? Will it last 3 months guaranteed, or just until 8.o? Thanks for the answer.
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/9 "2018-03-03T19:18:45Z")
Ah redundancy, true⌠I added it:
> 1. Orbital Auto Miner fuel is NOT transferred
> 2. O2 / Oxygen Generator will be wiped from the OCD (not in the game anymore)
> 3. It is (sadly) NOT connected to Alpha 8 but with our 3 month season system. But since Alpha 8 comes probably way more later we wonât repeat the disaster from last year. As soon as Alpha 8 comes out we must full wipe again
> 4. ^ **Take this into account for some donations. For Donator planets we still guarantee a 90days run time, no matter the seasons / full wipes. For keep EB etc. levels for example we will migrate it to Alpha 8 if it is released within 45 days after the 16th march. Otherwise it will be a new donation for Alpha 8.**
> 5. The full wipe will be used to migrate to a pre version of HWS 8
> 6. As soon as we know more we will let you know(edited)
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### Author:  [@Quasar](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Quasar)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/10 "2018-03-03T19:46:45Z")
Lol, how did I miss that? Actually my son was reading it to me, maybe I was distracted.
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### Author:  [@Wiseman738](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Wiseman738)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/11 "2018-03-03T20:57:31Z")
Dw bud i had the same thing happen to me reading it at first ahaha! đ
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### Author:  [@Dhalgren](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Dhalgren)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2018, 5:47am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/12 "2018-03-04T05:47:17Z")
Iâd like to request that the time period for extending/migrating seasonal donations (like Keep EB) be extended from 30 days to 45 days⌠it makes more sense to me, kind of like rounding a decimal number, because 45 days is the midpoint of a 3 month season. I guess the thought of donating and only getting 1/3 of value makes me feel⌠not great.
TLDR; my request is:
Less than half a season = seasonal donation extension
More than half a season = no extension
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### Author:  [@Serious\_Squirrel](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Serious_Squirrel)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2018, 4:43am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/13 "2018-03-05T04:43:54Z")
The key in season 5 was CV could fire their rocket/pulse mounted weapons in atmosphere đ
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2018, 11:22am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/14 "2018-03-05T11:22:21Z")
fine
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### Author:  [@CaptainJack](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/CaptainJack)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/15 "2018-03-05T11:55:30Z")
Interesting, even if that means slaughtering of HV/SV on planets. I would still vote âthumbs upâ, fighters killing a death star should only take place in Star Wars, not in our HWS ârealityâ.
This would also cause some threat to all the exploiter sniper tower bases that are omnipresent nowadays.
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### Author:  [@karuoxa](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/karuoxa)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/16 "2018-03-05T12:03:10Z")
A single SV can take out a sniping tower so i donât see how CVâs are neccesary unless what you consider a fighter is a tier 1 prefab.
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### Author:  [@Dhalgren](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Dhalgren)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/17 "2018-03-06T00:30:41Z")
Thank you, Rexxus.
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/18 "2018-03-06T22:03:58Z")
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### Author:  [@\_TIS\_RuneZ](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/_TIS_RuneZ)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/19 "2018-03-10T12:55:40Z")
Hi, couldnât find an answer in the text or âwipe FAQâ - does the OCD level or only the contents carry over during a wipe? đ
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/20 "2018-03-10T12:58:03Z")
Updated the Guide: the level carry over as well.
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### Author:  [@jjbud11](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/jjbud11)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/21 "2018-03-10T19:48:32Z")
Hey do we have a rough idea what time of day the wipe will take place? Thanks!
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### Author:  [@TacoIsland](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/TacoIsland)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/donation-changes-full-wipe-16th-march/10592/22 "2018-03-16T02:55:06Z")
I miss the days of cv fighting in atmo. Massive horizontal pyramids duking it out with only rockets and pulse lasers were awesome to fight in.