# Faction Planet Taxes now active
**URL:** https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446
**Category:** 📰 HWS Announcements
**Tags:** patch, hws4.0, taxes
**Created:** [October 22, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446 "2016-10-22T17:35:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/1 "2016-10-22T17:35:26Z")
Hey guys,
so we thought long about it, calculated and the new formular is now:
### **Block Size \* Devices / RP / Members** (per day)
_Example_:
you have 1 BA which is **5000 blocks** and **70 devices** big and you have **7 RP** this would mean **50k credits** per day.
If you now have **5 faction members** in your faction the total cost per day for **everyone** would be:
**10k credits**.
Yes, this means a guy alone has more to pay but he also has less structures than a 5 guy faction. So we think it is fair.
We tried some other variables but it had more complications than this one.
As I said in the other topic the main goal of the taxes is not to make you poor, it is to have a kind of self-managed system to the performance of one planet. We don’t want the situation again to keep adding pve planets again and again. 😉
Let’s see how it turns out.
Some other facts (you can read everything in the HWS Guide too):
- So the taxes will be paid every day at 9AM / 3EDT.
- If one guy has no money in the bank it goes on to the other guy and so on. If no one has credits in the bank it will be taken from the inventory. And lastly if everyone has no credits in the bank or in the player balance the structures goes to HWS _(this will be implemented later. Which structure, etc.)_
If you have questions / feedback let us know.
Thanks.
Your HWS Team
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### Author:  [@Mordgier](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Mordgier)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/3 "2016-10-22T17:36:40Z")
Thank you - looks much better.
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### Author:  [@fa13dguy](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/fa13dguy)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/4 "2016-10-22T17:37:00Z")
Nicely done. We’ll see how this goes xD
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### Author:  [@Xanif](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Xanif)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/5 "2016-10-22T17:37:52Z")
Great work as always. Thanks for listening to feedback!
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### Author:  [@Achilles](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Achilles)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/6 "2016-10-22T17:42:43Z")
Brilliant!
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### Author:  [@Veber](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Veber)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/7 "2016-10-22T17:51:57Z")
What about several structures? Are blocks and devices calculated individually for every structure or as a sum of all the structures in system?
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### Author:  [@Robob27](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Robob27)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/8 "2016-10-22T17:55:33Z")
Just to confirm, structures count as anything you can build? (BA, SV, CV)
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/9 "2016-10-22T17:58:12Z")
> [@Robob27](#):
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> anything you can build? (BA, SV, CV)
yes.
> [@Veber](#):
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> What about several structures? Are blocks and devices calculated individually for every structure or as a sum of all the structures in system?
It is the sum of all structures. 1 SV = 3000 credits + 1 CV = 11000 credits = 14000 credits / RP / Members
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### Author:  [@gargonus](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/gargonus)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/10 "2016-10-22T18:00:19Z")
To be clear if my cv is in pvp land or space do I get taxed or is it if they are on the planet?
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### Author:  [@Veber](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Veber)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/11 "2016-10-22T18:07:27Z")
That explains it, but just to clarify my question: I meant to make sure that if you have 2 bases of 5000 blocks and 70 devices each it is 2x cheaper than to have 1 base of 10000 blocks and 140 devices.
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### Author:  [@Achilles](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Achilles)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/12 "2016-10-22T18:22:52Z")
I think There needs to be a BA, CV limit.not so much SV but just to stop people crowding the planet with lots of small structures
maybe a thought for the future 😉
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/13 "2016-10-22T18:31:30Z")
> [@gargonus](#):
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> To be clear if my cv is in pvp land or space do I get taxed or is it if they are on the planet?
Only on the planet
> [@Veber](#):
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> but just to clarify my question:
Jascha is busy. I really need to be also 100% sure. Who knows what the code is doing 😉 Tomorrow every single question should be cleared. But this is my understanding of it
> [@Achilles](#):
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> crowding the planet with lots of small structures
Yeah. Well sooner or later the SVs are set to HWS faction I guess 😸
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### Author:  [@Blackwing](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Blackwing)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/14 "2016-10-22T18:55:57Z")
Very well balanced ^^
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### Author:  [@Robob27](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Robob27)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/15 "2016-10-22T19:19:22Z")
Are there any thoughts about implementing a way to buy back the structures by paying the taxes owed on them or something? Would be pretty disappointing to miss a payment and have everything repo’d with no avenue to get it back without starting from scratch again, y’know?
One more, am I understanding correctly that if at least 1 member has 1 credit, the condition " And lastly if everyone has no credits in the bank or in the player balance…" that at least 1 credit would be able to cover the tax bill each day, you just basically wouldn’t be able to earn until you were actually earning enough to pay for everything?
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/16 "2016-10-22T19:43:35Z")
Both questions are coming in the Planet Taxes 2.0 update I guess 😉
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### Author:  [@Robob27](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Robob27)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/17 "2016-10-22T19:49:37Z")
Sounds good, looking forward to it!
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### Author:  [@XoX1](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/XoX1)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2016, 6:59am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/18 "2016-10-23T06:59:29Z")
Just got my taxes fined too early… Drove my SV away at 8:30am so it doesnt get fined. Had a look in the bank afterwards and 300k were missing already even not 9am.
Normaly I`d only have to pay 30K… Pls clarify
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### Author:  [@Jascha](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Jascha)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2016, 8:06am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/19 "2016-10-23T08:06:41Z")
> [@Veber](#):
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> That explains it, but just to clarify my question: I meant to make sure that if you have 2 bases of 5000 blocks and 70 devices each it is 2x cheaper than to have 1 base of 10000 blocks and 140 devices.
hm thats actually true 🙂
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2016, 10:12am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/20 "2016-10-23T10:12:08Z")
the taxes were turned off. Money is missing not from taxes. Remember HWS Guide Slide 30 maybe 😉
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### Author:  [@XoX1](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/XoX1)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/faction-planet-taxes-now-active/1446/21 "2016-10-23T14:03:09Z")
Ahm, no didn`t die once yet.. Know I won`t ever get any RP with my playstyle but nevertheless the counting should be right - 67x485=32495 - yesterday night I stopped with above 1,9 Mio today only got 1,6… Dunno 😉
Didn`t buy non as well.
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