# Good Boy ABN abusing limits again
**URL:** https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065
**Category:** š Get Help
**Created:** [August 29, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065 "2020-08-29T03:43:55Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Pjams](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Pjams)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/1 "2020-08-29T03:43:56Z")
======= NOTICE FOR HELP =======
**What happened?**
=\> ABN still used HV with multiple detectors after the limit was put in place, they had the tanks spawned already and used them instead of doing the right thing, recycling them.
this significantly gave them a huge advantage as the detector counts as a mounted weapon, buying them more time to fight than we would be legally allowed to.
**Player(s) with issue? _(steam name)_**
=\> ABN
**Server? _(EU or NA)_**
=\> NA both ? i dunno
**When did it happen? _(Use server time: type ingame cb:time)_**
=\> When they play
**On which Playfield?**
=\> GG
**[Structure Name(s)](https://empyrion-homeworld.net/hws-connect.html#page-structures)?**
=\> A12Nightmare
**Structure ID(s) _(Open ingame console and type di)_?**
=\> probably lots of them
**How can we help you now?**
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### Author:  [@0z](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/0z)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/2 "2020-08-29T04:06:29Z")
Good job filling out the ticket properly!
So you are suggesting that we spawned a bunch of HVās in Safe Space and then tow them around to go to battle? You being serious? Making a false report is a new low for you, Jams!
The only proof is a picture of an old BP you took in creative. Also, you posted\* the EPB file WHICH CLEARLY SAYS A12ā¦ You knowā¦ ALPHA 12ā¦ You knowā¦ LAST SEASONā¦
If you are going to make a fake report, at least make it believable. For example, if you used an SV or CV as an example, that would make more sense. Spawning in a bunch of SVās and CVās in Donor Space and flying them into battle is a realistic situation. Spawning a bunch of HVās in Donor Space and load them up on a warp sled then bringing them to battle, highly unrealistic. When is the last time ABN has used warp sleds for HVās? š¤£
Anyways, nice troll.
I am kiddingā¦ it was a bad troll.
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### Author:  [@Pjams](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Pjams)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:12am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/3 "2020-08-29T04:12:31Z")
Then why is this the copy I got from Cyans ship, chaotics aswell? this is exactly as it was when I pressed Alt + O. false report ? get real this is the copy used during the battle where the limit was implemented and shouldnāt of been on battle.
clearly you didnāt tow them, as stated they could of been spawned in already before the games hard force of the limitation with a hot fix.
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### Author:  [@420Inc\_Space\_Ranger](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/420Inc_Space_Ranger)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:14am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/4 "2020-08-29T04:14:03Z")
screenshot of time stamp of captured bp to match? git gud
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### Author:  [@Pjams](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Pjams)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:15am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/5 "2020-08-29T04:15:53Z")
HWS logs will show
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### Author:  [@Cyanfire](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Cyanfire)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/6 "2020-08-29T04:18:40Z")
Yep, totally abused what we were allowed to do.
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### Author:  [@Pjams](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Pjams)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/7 "2020-08-29T04:20:41Z")
> [@0z](#):
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> the EPB file WHICH CLEARLY SAYS A12ā¦ You knowā¦ ALPHA 12ā¦ You knowā¦ LAST SEASON
when one of abn died in the tank thats what it said. hence why its saved as suchā¦ you knowā¦ maybe update your bp names ? idk not my problem, this was the bp capped as it was dead in the field from the battle the other day.
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### Author:  [@Pjams](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Pjams)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:22am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/8 "2020-08-29T04:22:48Z")
a post from over a month agoā¦ furthers my point the hard limit of 1 is what its supposed to be
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### Author:  [@Cyanfire](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Cyanfire)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/9 "2020-08-29T04:23:03Z")
Even if we did magically broke the rules, why are you reporting something a full season later? This is obviously a clear attempt at retaliation for TAW being called out for actually breaking rules.
> [@Good boy TAW breaking rules again](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-taw-breaking-rules-again/26051):
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> ======= NOTICE FOR HELP ======= What happened? =\> Using floating blocks on ships 8.1 Vessels (CV, SV, HV): Floating turrets, devices, blocks, or any combinations thereof are not permitted. All devices and blocks of a vessel must be attached one to the other. Player(s) with issue? (steam name) =\> TAW Server? (EU or NA) =\> NA both? I dunno When did it happen? (Use server time: type ingame cb:time) =\> when they play On which Playfield? =\> gg [Structure Name(s)](https://empyrion-homeworld.net/hws-connect.html#page-structures)? =\> probably lots of thā¦
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### Author:  [@Pjams](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Pjams)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/10 "2020-08-29T04:23:51Z")
its not a full season later. this was the other dayā¦ using builds with overlimit detector.
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### Author:  [@Cyanfire](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Cyanfire)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/11 "2020-08-29T04:24:04Z")
The hard limit was set last seasonā¦ It literally wouldnāt be possible to have spawned an over limit tank at any point this season. Are you serious?
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### Author:  [@Pjams](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Pjams)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/12 "2020-08-29T04:24:52Z")
I never saved tank bps last seasonā¦ this again 4th time was saved the other day after battles
in fact I was barely in pvpā¦
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### Author:  [@0z](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/0z)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/13 "2020-08-29T04:25:45Z")
So, you are saying we have had over limit detector tanks sitting on GG for a month?
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### Author:  [@Cyanfire](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Cyanfire)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:28am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/14 "2020-08-29T04:28:36Z")
Rex introduced the hard limit in A12, how would we have had them in place this season???
Your initial post argues that we āhad the tanks already.ā You mean like during A12 before the hard limits and used them in a battle the other dayā¦ this seasonā¦ season 13?
This is just documented foolishness at this point.
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### Author:  [@420Inc\_Space\_Ranger](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/420Inc_Space_Ranger)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:36am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/15 "2020-08-29T04:36:15Z")
Big Brain!! š¤
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### Author:  [@Rabid](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Rabid)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:39am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/16 "2020-08-29T04:39:09Z")
Thank god for logs, chat history, and the fact that when this all blows over weāll come out clean of any rules breaking or attempts thereof, and youāll look silly for sensationalizingā¦absolutely nothing.
Theres no way weāre producing illegal tanks and deploying them.
The server wont even let you
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### Author:  [@Pjams](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Pjams)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:39am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/17 "2020-08-29T04:39:18Z")
regardless of this circle you guys are in, the point of the post is to findout if this was used or not.
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### Author:  [@Cyanfire](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Cyanfire)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/18 "2020-08-29T04:43:04Z")
Clearly you donāt even believe the rubbish you post.
What season was the hard limit enforced Pjams? This isnāt a trick question.
Only thing this post proves is that ABN are indeed the good boys.
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### Author:  [@Chaotic](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Chaotic)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/19 "2020-08-29T04:43:46Z")
I donāt even know how weād spawn them inā¦ but as the one who built this tank, this was last seasonās model. Early last season, at that.
Rex is more than welcome to check anything Iāve built, spawned, and used in battle. Itās all within limits and legality.
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### Author:  [@Rabid](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Rabid)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2020, 4:44am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/good-boy-abn-abusing-limits-again/26065/20 "2020-08-29T04:44:38Z")
This is artistic
Just what are you trying to paint?
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