# HWS 6.X.X teaser | A new EGS feature! EGS Stealth!
**URL:** https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775
**Category:** š° HWS Announcements
**Tags:** op, feature, teaser, offlineprotection, hws6xx, egs
**Created:** [July 28, 2017, 6:48am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775 "2017-07-28T06:48:21Z")
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 6:48am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/1 "2017-07-28T06:48:21Z")
Hey [@everyone](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/groups/everyone),
for 6.X.X we implement a brand new EGS feature! And we are announcing it now since it is quite major and we also like to gather feedback from you about it.
I thought it is so big that I even created a little video about it.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8xMtMsawbk)
# EGS Stealth
_(aka the HWS Offline Protection for now)_
### Commands
```
egs:stealth:on (to set all ships near you in stealth mode)
egs:stealth:on:id (to set a custom ship near you in stealth mode)
egs:stealth:off
```
### All you need to know facts
- it costs **1 RP per ship** you set in stealth mode
- it only works in **space**
- it does not work on **planets**
- it only works for your **ships** (private, faction \> but also near faction ships from your buddy will get stealth. Make sure you are alone)
- it does not work for **bases**
- it only works if **no enemy player** is (online) near you (up to 2000 meter)
- it only stealth ships **200 meters around** you
- you can use the un-stealth command **only in the orbit you have ships** in stealth mode (from any distance)
- you canāt stealth ship(s) **more than one** time (as soon as you stealth one ship, you canāt stealth another one. Decide good if you want to store only one ship or all around you)
- ships are un-stealth there where you left them
- you canāt stealth ships if you are **guilty**
- the ships are stealth for **5 days** (then they are visible again)
- the ships are **undocked after stealth** mode. If they were docked before the stealth mode it is enough to just hop into the cockpit and leave again
### What does this mean for 6.X.X+
Let it settle and think about everything but here are some pre facts:
- **no more flying 50k+ km** out in space wasting time
- **no restrictions in PvP space** anymore
- no worry of **possible medbay spawn bug** or whatever in space
- great **performance boost** - the more people stealth their ships the better
- a true **offline protection**
- encourages you a lot to dive into the **Roleplay HWS** offers you to get RP
- we will increase the RP gaining in 6.X.X - no worry
- the stealth info will be also displayed in HWS Connect
- with the specific egs:stealthšid command you can better visit SV only planets since your mothership CV in space is in stealth mode
The only ānegativeā point of it is that dedicated far-in-space-offline-raider or gravity-gun-kamikaze-guys are now probably losing their jobs. I donāt know if that was a good job or worth it though.
But that is the reason why we have implemented the RP cost per ship, no stealth for guilty and 5 days limit for example. It should be all balanced.
Now the 100% gutshot question will be:
> and what is about bases? We need OP on bases!!! Planets!!
We stepped again into a development process of the game and we have our limits.
If we would allow stealth for bases this would not only cause game related technical problems like people building in the spot the base is stealth but also would take away the raid factor, the motivation to build actual defenses, etc.
We donāt see here a way for us to improve the gameplay. It definitely needs Eleon investigation like boost the damage of BAse defenses, reworking the Eleon Offline Protection for example.
_ **Good news** : this might come very soon in an even better way than you could imagine!_
So thatās it. We think it is awesome.
What do you think?
Your HWS Team
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### Author:  [@NikolaTesla](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/NikolaTesla)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 7:12am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/4 "2017-07-28T07:12:16Z")
it is good for someone, however ā¦
- no need to be hunter or pirate ā¦
- no need to use fa:scan anymore ā¦
- be just trader, buy and sell items now ā¦ time for money earning ā¦
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### Author:  [@TwitchyJ](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/TwitchyJ)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 7:16am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/5 "2017-07-28T07:16:00Z")
@NikolaTesla, did you miss the part where as soon as he took the ships out of stealth he became guilty?
Edit
I misinterpreted what happened. You wonāt be guilty for using it.
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### Author:  [@Jascha](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Jascha)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 7:19am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/6 "2017-07-28T07:19:00Z")
> [@krazzykid2006](#):
>
> as soon as he took the ships out of stealth he became guilty?
No, rex set himself to guilty to show that guilty people cant use stealth.
You dont get guilty from using egs:stealth
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 7:19am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/7 "2017-07-28T07:19:01Z")
Ohā¦ that can be misinterpreted I see.
I just forced myself guilty to show you what happens if you are guilty.
That you become guilty if you turn off stealth is not true
But nice idea š
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### Author:  [@TwitchyJ](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/TwitchyJ)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 7:20am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/8 "2017-07-28T07:20:55Z")
LOL. The trickery.
I guess I jumped to conclusions too soon.
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### Author:  [@Israel\_T-C](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Israel_T-C)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 7:36am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/9 "2017-07-28T07:36:57Z")
> [@RexXxuS](#):
>
> \* it only works if **no enemy player** is (online) near you (2000 meter
So to be clear the EGS commend does not work when a player who is online is 2000k away from you?
Or, is it that your stealth comes off when that online player is 2000k from you?
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### Author:  [@SkulkLife](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/SkulkLife)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 7:39am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/10 "2017-07-28T07:39:46Z")
Can u give us some technical info? How could you solve this feature? You remove the ship from playfield and save it on any kind of backup?
Iām just working as a devops thatās why Iām interested about backend.
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 7:48am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/11 "2017-07-28T07:48:45Z")
> [@Israel\_T-C](#):
>
> So to be clear the EGS commend does not work when a player who is online is 2000k away from you?
> Or, is it that your stealth comes off when that online player is 2000k from you?
It means: as long as a player who is online is near you (up to 2000 meter) you canāt use the egs:stealth:on command. Itās blocked.
Later if your ships are in stealth mode people can pass your stealth ships as they want. They wonāt get revealed.
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### Author:  [@NikolaTesla](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/NikolaTesla)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 7:49am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/12 "2017-07-28T07:49:40Z")
Rex, please make new egs:spy to find location of stealth fleet š
we are ready to pay for that )))))
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 7:49am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/13 "2017-07-28T07:49:41Z")
> [@SkulkLife](#):
>
> You remove the ship from playfield and save it on any kind of backup?
Yes, something like that.
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### Author:  [@SkulkLife](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/SkulkLife)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 7:55am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/14 "2017-07-28T07:55:10Z")
Thanks. I recommend the usage based on core numbers too. Donāt let them use stealth off when core numbers near to 255.
Ships with this can survive the blackhole orbit wipe? Am I right?
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/15 "2017-07-28T08:36:26Z")
> [@SkulkLife](#):
>
> Thanks. I recommend the usage based on core numbers too. Donāt let them use stealth off when core numbers near to 255.
255 core protection is implemented.
> [@SkulkLife](#):
>
> Ships with this can survive the blackhole orbit wipe? Am I right?
Correct! I think RP will become better than gold soon šø
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### Author:  [@SkulkLife](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/SkulkLife)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 8:41am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/16 "2017-07-28T08:41:14Z")
Cool. š Next step is the RP based taxes. š
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### Author:  [@Stunner666](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Stunner666)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 8:43am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/17 "2017-07-28T08:43:10Z")
> [@RexXxuS](#):
>
> encourages you a lot to dive into the Roleplay HWS offers you to get RP
Yeah pls that must be. or nobody would use that feature.
On Question, when its stealth. how could you find your ship again? Can unstealth everywhere? Do you see it on map? Or must I do a Mapmarker?
One more.
When Im in space and want to stealth my CV und fly away with my SV. Must I fly my SV 300 m far away and fly back with backpack to my CV ā steahl CV ā and fly back 300m with my jetpack to sv?? thas not cool??? Or could I stealth CV when Im in my SV?
good job
> [@NikolaTesla](#):
>
> - be just trader, buy and sell items now ā¦ time for money earning ā¦
Why do you need more Credits^^?
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 9:01am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/18 "2017-07-28T09:01:23Z")
> [@Stunner666](#):
>
> Can unstealth everywhere?
> [@RexXxuS](#):
>
> you can use the un-stealth command only in the orbit you have ships in stealth mode
> [@Stunner666](#):
>
> Do you see it on map?
Nope, it is the newest stealth technology 7000! Nobody sees it, not even you.
> [@Stunner666](#):
>
> how could you find your ship again?
> [@RexXxuS](#):
>
> the stealth info will be also displayed in HWS Connect
On HWS Connect probably under Structure Commander you get the location / coordinates of your stealth ships displayed. Otherwise a map marker is a good idea.
> [@Stunner666](#):
>
> and fly back 300m with my jetpack to sv?? thas not cool???
Indeed not coolā¦ so Jascha did some magic and we will implement also
```
egs:stealth:on:id
```
With that you can specify the ship you want to set in stealth mode.
So grab your SV, fly within 200meter to your CV, type egs:stealthšID (of the CV) and you can fly to Golden Globe without worry about your CV in space. š
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### Author:  [@Israel\_T-C](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Israel_T-C)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 9:01am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/19 "2017-07-28T09:01:43Z")
> [@RexXxuS](#):
>
> \* the ships are stealth for **5 days** (then they are visible again)
Whats the cooldown of the use of that commend? Like once per day or once per 5 days etc? Or if i use stealth that day then get out of it five hours later how long can i use it again?
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 9:04am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/20 "2017-07-28T09:04:50Z")
Cooldown of the command is
- 15 seconds
- your RP amount š
The 5 days has nothing to do with the cooldown. It is just a limit. If you want to save your structures for longer (7+ days) you have to donate the āHoliday Shipā package.
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### Author:  [@Stunner666](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Stunner666)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 9:13am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/21 "2017-07-28T09:13:48Z")
> [@RexXxuS](#):
>
> With that you can specify the ship you want to set in stealth mode.
> So grab your SV, fly within 200meter to your CV, type egs:stealthšID (of the CV) and you can fly to Golden Globe without worry about your CV in space. š
Ok good but what is with Docked Svs and HVs on CV. Do they automaticly stealth with CV?
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2017, 9:15am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-6-x-x-teaser-a-new-egs-feature-egs-stealth/6775/22 "2017-07-28T09:15:50Z")
> [@Stunner666](#):
>
> Ok good but what is with Docked Svs and HVs on CV. Do they automaticly stealth with CV?
If you want to stealth a whole fleet except one SV you have to type the command egs:stealthšid for each ship you want to put in stealth.
I might integrate a āStealthā button in HWS Connect Structure Commander which copy for you directly the ship + ID.
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