# HWS 8 | Teaser Countdown II | Supergate & Player / Faction Activity reward
**URL:** https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914
**Category:** 📰 HWS Announcements
**Tags:** teaser, hws8, alpha8, supergate
**Created:** [June 5, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914 "2018-06-05T13:54:58Z")
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/1 "2018-06-05T13:54:59Z")
Hey [@everyone](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/groups/everyone),
after the [first Teaser about the HWS Marketplace and Chatbot rework](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-i/11905), it’s time for another new feature in HWS 8 I teasered already couple of times
> # Supergates
With Supergates you have now the possibility to warp with your ship(s) to another playfield - since the normal Portals can only warp your player.
This allows more dynamic within the Universe.
Especially since we implemented for the Supergates a simple “Allow” and “Deny” system, similar to the Sector mechanic.
This means for example that you can warp away from the Prototype Startplanet with your ship (after you have chosen an Origin) but can’t warp to that Supergate back again (One-Way).
The other way around: you can warp to the Supergate on the ECC planet but can’t warp from there to other ones.
> **Type sg:? in chat** in HWS 8 to see the possible destinations
More insights:
- using the Supergate is for now **free** (no credit, item or RP cost)
- depending on the playfield each Supergate will have a **big area around it** — this means you get warped randomly insight that zone. If the Supergate zone is for example 10k x 10k x 10k big the chances to get warp camped are very, very small. You know when you are in the zone as soon as you get greeted.
- the “do not warp camp” rule is for now not active for Supergates, because I will configure very large zones. It’s part of the risk / adventure to not know what is on the other side (we would remove that rule completely if the current random factor of 3k would be increased for default jumps)
- one of the biggest dynamic this offers is that you **have to be inside** that Supergate zone to be able to jump away. This means you can’t escape any time you want. **Strategy and positioning will be the key for escaping or attacking.**
For now this mechanic will be tested live in the very new Titan Orbit. You can jump from here and there inside but can only escape if you are in the Supergate zone in the center.
The Orbit and the Titan planet will be a new PvP hotspot with no rules, no Anti Grief or what so ever (well, sadly we can’t prevent OP devices on certain playfields yet) — but as always: high risk = high **reward**.
> # Player / Faction Activity reward
Some requested it and it’s our first version to a probably more complex system in the future.
In HWS 8 the size of the Faction and the activity in general matters more than before.
## Solo
- You get +1 RP per active playhour on HWS
## Faction
- For every 10 active faction member everyone in that faction get …
- For every 20 active faction member everyone in that faction get …
- For every 30 active faction member everyone in that faction get …
- For every 40 active faction member everyone in that faction get …
- For every 50 active faction member everyone in that faction get …
- (_active = logged in and played within the last 7 days_)
### Alliance
- … +10 RP per day
- … +20 RP per day
- … +30 RP per day
- … +40 RP per day
- … +50 RP per day
### Freelancer
- … +1 RP per day
- … +2 RP per day
- … +3 RP per day
- … +4 RP per day
- … +5 RP per day
### Lawless
- … +5 RP per day
- … +10 RP per day
- … +15 RP per day
- … +20 RP per day
- … +25 RP per day
We have players with over 3000 playhours in total or +1000 playhours within one season. We want to reward this even more passively (along the other new systems as the Vote reward for example).
Regarding the Origin differences I want to see bigger decisions and immersion. Freelancer are well-known Solo / Duo Adventurer / Hunter. Alliance is a big collective organisation and Lawless is a potential big group with unclear infrastructure.
Of course Factions in Alpha 8 - with the new Offline Protection system are in a different spotlight now, but I know that some big factions stay and fall together. 😉
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That’s it for today. Excited to see how the Supergates will be used in HWS 8!
Stay tuned for more teasers tomorrow…
Your HWS Team
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### Author:  [@sacredglade](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/sacredglade)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/4 "2018-06-05T14:26:57Z")
Wow that PvP hotspot that cannot be instantly warped out of sounds a really clever idea… you can see player kill counts increasing!
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### Author:  [@Rabid](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Rabid)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/5 "2018-06-05T15:30:59Z")
Freelancer getting a mere 1/10th the RP as Alliance and 1/5th the amount of lawless seems super-nerfy.
I could see it broken into thirds, where alliance gets 3x, lawless 2x, freelancer 1x, but 10x, 5x, 1x? Hopefully freelancer gets some cool new unique things to balance this
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/6 "2018-06-05T15:33:42Z")
> [@Rabid](#):
>
> Hopefully freelancer gets some cool new unique things to balance this
This is already the balance. Freelancer are leading the current meta by far.
But each Origin gets an additional balance syringe
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### Author:  [@TacoIsland](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/TacoIsland)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/7 "2018-06-05T15:34:58Z")
Freelancers have enjoyed the benefits of PvP/PvE with the least riskier losss 300 pentaxid instead of 999 gold ingots or 77 AM cores. It’s a legit nerf IMO.
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### Author:  [@Dawg](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Dawg)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/8 "2018-06-05T15:37:45Z")
Seems I need a faction and Alliances for this time around…Anyone need a base builder? Someone that would have a resupply and repair location?
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### Author:  [@Wiseman738](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Wiseman738)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/9 "2018-06-05T15:48:30Z")
This sounds SO GOOD REXXUS!
Only one question: What if a faction has a freelancer AND lawless or something, is it based purely on the faction Origin or do all players have to have the same Origin for it to work?
Best regards
Wise!
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### Author:  [@ICE](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/ICE)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/10 "2018-06-05T15:59:11Z")
Great question wondering that as well.
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### Author:  [@Aerdred](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Aerdred)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/11 "2018-06-05T16:26:47Z")
Chill, it’s a piece of a bigger puzzle regarding how the origins will work; we need more information and we’re clearly going to be getting it 😛
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### Author:  [@Ghost1](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Ghost1)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/12 "2018-06-05T17:18:56Z")
Maybe freelancer need a nerf but with what rexxus said I see no reason to play freelancer. It’s overkill in my opinion but no big deal. I will just play alliance like everyone else will now.
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### Author:  [@TacoIsland](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/TacoIsland)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/13 "2018-06-05T17:27:44Z")
Pirate life for me.
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### Author:  [@open6L](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/open6L)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/14 "2018-06-05T17:37:47Z")
I know the tool now has an option to prevent Factions made up of different origins. Maybe Rex will be locking factions to same origins.
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/15 "2018-06-05T17:39:36Z")
> [@Wiseman738](#):
>
> Only one question: What if a faction has a freelancer AND lawless or something, is it based purely on the faction Origin or do all players have to have the same Origin for it to work?
Each player is counted and calculated individually.
Everyone gets what his Origin is.
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/16 "2018-06-05T17:44:17Z")
> [@Ghost1](#):
>
> Maybe freelancer need a nerf but with what rexxus said I see no reason to play freelancer. It’s overkill in my opinion but no big deal. I will just play alliance like everyone else will now.
Glad to hear you value this change so dramatically. Just a hint thinking 2 steps ahead:
If “everyone” is playing Alliance and you kill each other you lose quite some RP — in the end maybe more than you would gain as Freelancer 🙃
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### Author:  [@Macbrea](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Macbrea)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/17 "2018-06-05T19:34:25Z")
So, about 31.5 million credits for playing Alliance in a huge faction for a season? Assuming you log on once a day?
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### Author:  [@Ghost1](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Ghost1)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/18 "2018-06-05T19:57:30Z")
I thought alliance don’t lose rp for killing in pvp anymore since it was so awful for pvp? So what you are suggesting is alliance will once again lose rp for killing other alliance in season8? Just curious I guess.
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### Author:  [@TacoIsland](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/TacoIsland)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/19 "2018-06-05T21:25:07Z")
I think he is referring to alliance killing alliance.
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### Author:  [@Ghost1](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Ghost1)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/20 "2018-06-05T21:34:09Z")
I know but right now it’s not rp you lose just becoming guilty with ally killing ally
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### Author:  [@TacoIsland](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/TacoIsland)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/21 "2018-06-05T22:34:55Z")
Never know at this point, could also be an RP penalty for all we know at the moment, or an additional RP cost for becoming unguilty.
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### Author:  [@Ghost1](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Ghost1)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-8-teaser-countdown-ii-supergate-player-faction-activity-reward/11914/22 "2018-06-05T23:37:07Z")
I can see that since they gain so much maybe the balance is to lose it as easily as they get it.
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