# IMPORTANT | New HWS EU Server 30th Nov | HWS Christmas Time | Support Package changes
**URL:** https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741
**Category:** đ° HWS Announcements
**Tags:** patch, teaser, server, christmas
**Created:** [November 27, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741 "2018-11-27T14:38:25Z")
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/1 "2018-11-27T14:38:25Z")
Hi HWS Community
December will be a very exciting month! Maybe with up and downs but we are really working hard for the HWS 9 release and way more behind the scenes. One of the biggest thing:
> # New HWS EU server (replacing the old hardware wise)
Quick comparison
| Old HWS EU Server | New HWS EU Server |
| --- | --- |
| 128 GB RAM | **384 GB** RAM |
| Intel 2x Xeon E5-2630v3 - 16/32t - 2.4 GHz / 3.2 GHz | Intel 2x Xeon E5- **2680v4** - **28c/56t** - **2.4GHz /3.3GHz** |
| Bandwidth 1 Gbit/s | Bandwidth **10 Gbit/s** |
| Cost: $237 / month | Cost: **$328.99** / month |
Again, plain speaking: that one single game consumes so much hardware is absurd, there is no other way to say it. And everyone who think this is fake: host your own Empyrion server with 177 online players at the same time with a $50 server. Have fun.
But we love the game. We love our community. So hell letâs do it!
We tried a similar approach 2 years ago with a even bigger server and it didnât work out as we wanted. We know the reasons though and I think it will be better this time.
# Reason why
Overall I need to explain to you why we do this of course:
1. At the release of HWS 8.X (177 players) we had a lot of forced restarts because the RAM reached the limit of ~110 GB. That way EAH automatically restarts the game - otherwise Doomsday happen. This wonât happen with the new server and 384 GB RAM anymore.
2. With 28/56 CPU cores instead of 16/32 my idea is to keep our Universe as creative as it is now texture / design wise. At the moment Atlantis for example is so heavily texture modified that itâs part of the bad performance.
Additionally the Empyrion hardware logic is like this:
- 50 players on one planet = low CPU usage. High player Frames per second (FPS).
- 50 players spread on 30 planets = 100% CPU usage.
With more CPU power we hope to at least have 90% CPU usage now⌠I doubt it.
3. With this very âcheapâ new server we want to be ready for the future. Prepared for more performance leaks from the game or the opposite, the game finally fixes its bad performance, we could host more games on that machine.
4. **DISCLAIMER** : All of this will **not** mean, that we will have
- No bugs / glitches anymore!
- Smooth PvP fights!
_It might be better overall with the new server but it is a big misconception nowadays from some start-up companies even, that they can fix their bad code with good hardware! Never do this!_
> **Note** : _Due risk management Iâve decided to keep the current (old) HWS EU server still available in case the new monster server fails for whatever reason. That means that we have to gift $237 to our provider without using it. There is no generous offer there I can make. But itâs ok. Safety first. Iâll pay it from my own pocket._
> # How does it affect YOU?
**With great power comes great responsibility!**
There is a _very_ crucial thing to keep in mind for **YOU** , the players (as some know from 2 years ago).
> > # Your âready to spawn blueprintsâ will be wiped !
Shamefully the blueprints are still stored on your **local** computer. The game checks the server + player file however. Since the new server has a new IP / Cache they wonât match anymore.
> **The only workaround for you is to spawn your blueprints from your F2 Factory into the universe BEFORE we do the migration!**
> We copy over everything to the new server. That way all structures which are really spawned in the universe will get come over!
Again, if you donât spawn your ships before, you will lose them. And no, we absolutely canât help you then anymore.
> # All of that matters on 30th November at 9 AM
_(type cb:time ingame)_
_The migration process will take about 15 minutes._
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> # HWS Christmas Time
[As last year](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-wish-you-a-merry-christmas-x-mas-event-hws-connect-daily-loot/9237), I also want to share with you a nice christmas time on HWS this year (even if you donât like it, free loot is always good, no? đ )
> ## Christmas PDA Mission
Some remember it from last year here: [HWS X-mas Event 2017](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-x-mas-event/8426)
This time with more special loot for you!
A proper thread will be created on the first December.
> ## HWS Supporter Christmas Deal
The first time ever and very experimental for me I created a Christmas Deal for you, which will be **activated on the first advent**.
Every package except the Keep Credits Upgrader and Custom Donation of course have a **-30% discount**.
I just wanted to early announce it because it is very new to you and you can wait for the deal if you are in general interested in supporting us.
> **Note** : _the -30% deal also applies to [HWS Ingots](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/hws-ingot/14844)! The deal will run until the 24th December. No refund, exchange or transfer can be made._
> ## HWS Supporter Package changes
Last but not least, because I will start to finally rebalance the Elemental Bank and OCD after 2+ years there are some changes involved to the Supporter package to keep an overall balance. Please see below:
- **HWS Supporter**
Price from 9 to **11 âŹ**
It includes now also **Elemental Bank Level 3** and **EGS Recycle Level 3** _(will be automatically set after a full wipe to this level without re-paying)_
- **EB Level 3**
Will be replaced with **EB Level 5** (to be consistent with OCD lvl 5 and Recycle lvl 5)
Price from 12 to **15 âŹ**
- **Keep 25m credits**
Price from 15 to **10 âŹ**
- **Keep 50m credits**
Price from 25 to **15 âŹ**
- **Keep 70m credits**
Price from 29 to **20 âŹ**
- **Keep 100m credits**
Price from 35 to **30 âŹ**
> **As I said, all of these changes are scheduled for the 1st Advent, on 2nd December**.
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Alright, that is enough for you to think about! A lot of hints and surprises got out and I hope you are excited, as I am, if all of this works out!
Being creative, spending tons of time for you to create such âdifferentâ things is really something I enjoy.
But of course only, if you appreciate it - itâs made for you, not for me.
Please let me know at the given time what you think about all of that!
Your HWS Team
P.S:: The big HWS Survey is still running but also ends on the 1st December. If you havenât already, you can particiapte here: [HWS Survey #3](https://goo.gl/forms/GTYTSU0DaKLnRRiz2)
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/2 "2018-11-27T16:06:39Z")
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/3 "2018-11-27T16:06:42Z")
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### Author:  [@Dr.Dark](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Dr.Dark)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/4 "2018-11-27T16:14:30Z")
> [@RexXxuS](#):
>
> - **Keep 25m credits**
> Price from 15 to **10 âŹ**
> - **Keep 25m credits**
> Price from 25 to **15 âŹ**
> - **Keep 25m credits**
> Price from 29 to **20 âŹ**
> - **Keep 25m credits**
> Price from 35 to **30 âŹ**
Umm rex you made a mistake ;D Read that quote again
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### Author:  [@Dr.Dark](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Dr.Dark)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/5 "2018-11-27T16:22:10Z")
Iâm actually very happy for you saying this now. Iâve wanted to donate for Keep 100mil the last few days. Iâm really happy i didnât yet.
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### Author:  [@CyIvIpak](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/CyIvIpak)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/6 "2018-11-27T16:47:45Z")
What about ships in stealth? They will be transfer to new server?
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### Author:  [@Jascha](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Jascha)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/7 "2018-11-27T17:03:42Z")
> [@CyIvIpak](#):
>
> What about ships in stealth? They will be transfer to new server?
Yes, they are safe
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### Author:  [@CyIvIpak](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/CyIvIpak)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/8 "2018-11-27T17:18:43Z")
Nice - i cab spouwn and put it to stealth âŚ
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### Author:  [@SirKnumskull](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/SirKnumskull)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/9 "2018-11-27T19:01:43Z")
> [@RexXxuS](#):
>
> This time with more special loot for you!
Yeah, last years loot was really lame and weak! Only one Alien Core per server and only a ton of resources! Should have been at least 10 Alien Cores and multiple tons of resources! đ
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### Author:  [@Jeeves](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Jeeves)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2018, 8:13am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/10 "2018-11-28T08:13:57Z")
use the current EU server for a special event server for the remainder of the month if the upgrade goes smoothlyâŚ
if upgrade goes smooth, old server reconfigured something like this:
CSW + BH (special gg with 3x gold???)
PVP everywhere except CSW.
that way you dont have to eat the entire $237, without having some fun đ
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2018, 8:16am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/11 "2018-11-28T08:16:31Z")
Hehe, I know it would be so easy once all servers are set up and running smoothly.
But it would be only available for one month.
Will think about it once all is done.
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### Author:  [@Dhalgren](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Dhalgren)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2018, 9:08am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/12 "2018-11-28T09:08:37Z")
I feel kind of bad actually.
I literally just paid full price for EB5 carry over on NA and 100M Credit carry over on EU⌠at full price (50 euros!). Like the day before the announcement.
Argh. Just my luck. I really wish I could have gotten the sale priceâŚ
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2018, 9:27am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/13 "2018-11-28T09:27:07Z")
I thought very very long about that âDealâ philosophy⌠(the reason also why I didnât implement it earlier).
If you look at amazon & co. you donât get a friendly ânext week product X is on saleâ. It just happens, bam.
And then, if you missed it or bought the product X for the price before, you feel bad.
Overall it creates a kind of âmust-check-it-out-every-dayâ feeling.
I donât want that and we are here for fun, not shopping.
If the Deal is accepted by the community (and realistically we can get bit more money out of it for the new EU server by quantity) I might do it again on special days like eastern etc., so people can more or less count with it.
But yeah, for some the timing can be bad nevertheless.
_Since itâs the first time I only offer to the players via PM compensation, who bought stuff 3 days before this announcement for the full price. The compensation can only be granted in other packages of the difference value. No refund and only for the next 3 days. I canât spend too much time with it during the HWS 9 preparation anymore._
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### Author:  [@Dhalgren](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Dhalgren)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2018, 9:44am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/14 "2018-11-28T09:44:13Z")
Rexxus, you rock! Thank you!
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### Author:  [@Vengeance](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Vengeance)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/15 "2018-11-29T01:35:05Z")
I just bought a bunch of stuff at full price. Donât care - glad to help out!!
I am about get 2 more items, but I have questionsâŚ
1. I already have the permanent OCD 5. If I now buy HWS Support, will that overwrite my OCD 5 back down to OCD 3? If so, can you bump it back to 5 for me?
2. Iâm curious about the alien core. It says permanent, but it appears that if you try to take it back to use it elsewhere, you just get the âpartsâ for it. Whatâs the permanent part? Do you get a new one each season?
Thanks and canât wait to try out the new server!
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### Author:  [@TwitchyJ](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/TwitchyJ)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/16 "2018-11-29T02:27:17Z")
> [@Vengeance](#):
>
> I already have the permanent OCD 5. If I now buy HWS Support, will that overwrite my OCD 5 back down to OCD 3? If so, can you bump it back to 5 for me?
It wonât downgrade you, youâre safe.
> [@Vengeance](#):
>
> Iâm curious about the alien core. It says permanent, but it appears that if you try to take it back to use it elsewhere, you just get the âpartsâ for it. Whatâs the permanent part? Do you get a new one each season?
Itâs single use. The bit about it being permanent means that once you purchase it itâs permanent UNTIL you use the do:rp:ac command to claim it. You can keep it unclaimed forever, even through wipes. Once you use the command to receive the core then itâs gone. You can then put the core in your OCD if you have high enough level.
If you want to reclaim an alien core after placing it on a structure, you will need to have OCD level 5 along with Recycle level 5 and then use the recycle commands to get the alien core back.
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2018, 9:54am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/20 "2018-11-30T09:54:35Z")
# Migration 100% done
The new HWS EU server is online @everyone ! đ¤
Few notes:
- You have to redownload the Cache
- It could happen that the server is not in your âHistoryâ tab anymore. Just search again for âHWS EUâ in the lobby! Spread the word.
**EDIT** : Steam login should work again.
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### Author:  [@IgoSolo](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/IgoSolo)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2018, 9:01am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/21 "2018-12-02T09:01:41Z")
Hey, I was wondering about how one of the supporter packages work
The recycle level 5 package will be gone when the next wipe comes right? if so then buying it now would be the wrong time even at the discount, am i correct on this? If so then buying the HWS supporter pack is the best way to go, because if im understanding it correctly you get to keep EGS recycle level 3 permanently right?
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2018, 9:22am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/22 "2018-12-02T09:22:29Z")
> [@IgoSolo](#):
>
> keep EGS recycle level 3 permanently right?
Right.
> [@IgoSolo](#):
>
> The recycle level 5 package will be gone when the next wipe comes right?
Wrong and right.
It will be gone but combined with the âKeep EGS Recycleâ Level it would be not wasted at least.
Just depends on the player choices.
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### Author:  [@IgoSolo](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/IgoSolo)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/important-new-hws-eu-server-30th-nov-hws-christmas-time-support-package-changes/15741/23 "2018-12-02T09:33:07Z")
Oh ok, forgot about that, well ill buy them both seems like the right choice.
Also ive decided to go ahead and buy the supporter planet and space as i mentioned to you in discord, im just sorting out what we want, so ill let you know shortly
Thanks
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