# New TAX system is crazy
**URL:** https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/new-tax-system-is-crazy/23019
**Category:** 🆘 Get Help
**Created:** [March 22, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/new-tax-system-is-crazy/23019 "2020-03-22T16:24:05Z")
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### Author:  [@CyIvIpak](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/CyIvIpak)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/new-tax-system-is-crazy/23019/1 "2020-03-22T16:24:05Z")
======= NOTICE FOR HELP =======
**What happened:**
=\> I fogot my sv on ECC sector and warp to NA
after restart i got Tax 126 000 000 Credits ☹
126 000 000 for 1 fogoted SV ?
**Player(s) with issue:**
=\> Co6upatejib
**Server:**
=\> EU
**Time (cb:time):**
=\> morning restart
**Playfield:**
=\> ECC sector
**Structure Name(s):**
=\> 135
**Structure ID(s):**
=\>
**How can we help you now:**
=\> pls return money. I think tax system when for fogoted any ships u deleted all bank money and every time go in dept its no normal, its must be changed.
- **Ship Tax** : Blocks \* Devices \* Tax Factor( **100** )
- **Private Structure Tax** : ( **Ship Tax** + Player **Bank** Credits) / RP
- **Faction structure Tax** : ( **Ship Tax** + Player **Bank** Credits + Player Balance) / Faction members / RP
Player **Bank** Credits - must be Bank interest - not all bank money
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/new-tax-system-is-crazy/23019/2 "2020-03-22T16:25:32Z")
“New TAX system”?
It is not new. 2 years old.
But I will check this case later.
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/new-tax-system-is-crazy/23019/3 "2020-03-22T16:39:46Z")
> [@CyIvIpak](#):
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> Player **Bank** Credits - must be Bank interest - not all bank money
I checked and it is right.
Check the Tax guide again. You had almost 100 000 000 credits in your Player Bank.
> [@Taxes](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/taxes/4389):
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> Certain playfields have Taxes applied to them for various reasons. Playfields with Taxes: Please press M in-game and read the playfield description. You may need to scroll down to see Taxes. Typically, taxes are applied to the following playfields: ECC System, CSW, the 2 Peacekeepers and the Donor playfields. \*If there are more than 200 cores on the Donor Planets. [taxes] How Taxes work: You have to pay taxes for all of your structures (BA, CV, HV, SV) that exist in the taxable pla…
Since you are a veteran I see no reason why to fully refund it, sorry. You knew perfectly what was going to happen. We can say 50% refund maybe if you really “forgot” it?
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### Author:  [@CyIvIpak](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/CyIvIpak)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/new-tax-system-is-crazy/23019/4 "2020-03-22T17:05:56Z")
YEs iam veteran and as veteran say u - its taxe system …
Ex: any player work hard and get 5 mil cr for season, He fogot ship and warp no NA = RP=0 and
his LOST all Bank ! And he lost SHIp brcouse ship becom common for depts. And as result BB server and hisi was RIGHT.
Server CANNOT GET ALL BANK - ALL CREDITS for 1 FOGOT ship.
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### Author:  [@CyIvIpak](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/CyIvIpak)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/new-tax-system-is-crazy/23019/5 "2020-03-22T17:07:03Z")
Iam got 120 mil for 1 month and Why u GET all it for 1 SV? Its very HARD for SErver? Then change server.
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### Author:  [@Politary](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Politary)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/new-tax-system-is-crazy/23019/6 "2020-03-22T17:29:22Z")
Reputation changing to 0 after CSW is not an old change. Not made 2 years ago at least. Taking _all_ player credits for one ship left at ECC is too much.
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### Author:  [@RexXxuS](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/RexXxuS)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/new-tax-system-is-crazy/23019/7 "2020-03-22T19:22:01Z")
> [@CyIvIpak](#):
>
> Iam got 120 mil for 1 month and Why u GET all it for 1 SV? Its very HARD for SErver? Then change server.
The thing is: it’s once per day. ~9AM. No surprise. No shock. And totally free. We don’t force anyone to park there 🙂
For noobs we have implemented a free charge.
In next season I will rework some things in general to reduce player frustration. Maybe looking at tax too.
Regarding the ticket: I refund 50% as gentle offer
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/new-tax-system-is-crazy/23019/8 "2020-03-23T19:36:27Z")
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/new-tax-system-is-crazy/23019/9 "2020-03-26T19:36:29Z")
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