These links show quite well what RexXxuS intended with OCD and HWS as a ‘hard’ PvP server
This is an active alpha system - We may add or remove your favorite features / change the donation system, we can’t please everyone. But let’s keep dialog open.
States pretty clearly that Rex fully intends to continue making changes to the HWS Server…I guess we’re both right, darn.
I think I will let the thread die as it has been polluted but some good ideas came out of it at least for the OCD and I think it can be improved upon 
Old limits, pre-season 6. Dont recall various levels, but at ocd lvl 5 — 700,000 per slot.
Not a typo – yes, used to be 700k per slot. Just under 1 year ago it changed.
Changed for season 6 to 50k per slot (lvl 5). 93% nerf. Then, I believe it was prior to 6.5 or so, all zas, ere, and mag ore and ingots/powder were removed from everyones ocd to welcome in the change in resource requirements to build just about anything. Can continue storing them, but all slots containing them were zeroed at that time.
Good question! It helps to understand why its said the ocd has already been nerfed hard. Helps put into perspective why those here pre-6, are generally not receptive (indeed, defensive and a bit snarly at times) to any idea even hinting at more nerf of ocd, including putting it at risk to hackers.
The ocd has been beaten down far enough – enhance it in someway, or leave it alone. But dont take more away from it. At least not yet, and then only in conjunction with other enhancements (in or outside of ocd) to offset the takeaways.
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Ofc I know that you’re are quoting me out of context, I’m showing the consequence of a proposed change.
There are no other server than HWS at least for my time zone (france), every time i look at the browser, the only populated (>10) server is hws and sometimes the official eleon eu server.
I’m not a native english speaker, it’s often a struggle to explain myself.
I’m not opposed to enhancing it, I just wanted to discuss the topic in a civil manner and forthe most part that was accomplished.
I get that and that’s fair. I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt even if I usually disagree with them on most things.
Summarization
From Veterans
OCD is perfect but it isn't cause it needs a buff
So it isn't perfect some of you are just quick to attack anyone that brings up the topic because in the past the OCD has been reduced or nerfed in some way.OCD Specialty Slots
Being able to invest in additional slots that could hold specific items that might not otherwise be held in the OCD, accessed in special areas, etc. is an interesting idea worth pursuing.Add More OCD Levels
The addition of more levels for the OCD that are less leaps and more gradual steps.Leave As Is
Realistically this isn't going to happen which is why I opened it to discussion I have seen several people bring up the topic, if you haven't seen it discussed that's because you're not paying attention. Rex is looking to make changes and even other members on here have mentioned that new players "constantly want to level the playing field". But this is a viable option that should be listed nonetheless.Buff the OCD
I haven't seen any real ways mentioned but would love to see some suggestions for how it should be buffed that wouldn't involve unlimited storage.From Greeny
High/Low Orbit
In order to create a separation between the secure and non-secure storage to allow more expansion on the OCD concept without taking away more from those that have already watched their favorite feature on the HWS server get reduced in the past I presented this concept.- High Orbit remains 100% secure like the current implementation of the OCD and can only be accessed from PvE
- Low Orbit becomes the way to access the OCD from PvP only with the caveat of having the slots that are accessible from PvP also being vulnerable to hacking or other forms of theft
From Others
Earlier PvP Access To OCD
While this wasn't directly stated it was implied that an important thing for smaller factions is the ability to access the OCD in order to hold their own against large factions in PvP zones and this has merit. While allowing access to the OCD earlier would also benefit larger factions in the same way I think it is something that deserves consideration and discussion at the very least.Limitations On Item Classifications
Rather than leaving the lower caps on the total number of slots in the OCD it has been suggested to have some of the more powerful and rare items have caps inside the OCDs(rare weapons, OAM cores, maybe even gold ingots if necessary). This could also be used as an artificial way of limiting the amount of gold and other rare resources if so desired by using OCD level to put caps on number of ingots/ore. The core idea though is based around setting a classification of Rare/Uncommon/Common and limiting the amount based off that classification.Do you want people to low-life and steal everything out of your low-orbit OCD’s with bots and macros?
Because this is exactly where this conversation is going.
Nix this whole discussion while you still have some of your sanity.
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Low Orbit becomes Opt In/Out and has different types of security measures to avoid just being wiped clean. But that is what discussion is for to bring up possible flaws and how to possibly avoid them. This is just a summary of what was discussed. Those who hated the idea of everything they worked several seasons to acquire being at risk no longer have to worry because it isn’t.
No, and my sanity is fine it seems to be everyone that only wants to think of things from a negative light that has the sanity issues lol.
Maybe sanity wasn’t the word, maybe it’s more dignity he was looking for.
You know everybody would rather opt out than in.
lmao, all of you want to talk to me about dignity. Ganging up on someone trying to have a discussion about a topic. The one person not being disrespectful. The person constantly trying to get back on topic and be polite to everyone despite being called scared and green and everything else.
You want to talk to me about dignity when you all act so terribly to new opinions. That’s laughable. I have a great respect for myself and others and have not been rude to others unless it was first directed at me. Read the definition of words before using them on an open forum.
*Grabs popcorn and waits for Vandruis’s response…
The grief and salt and hatred that something like a hackable OCD will bring measures headaches far beyond what the positives will be.
It’s a limited to zero-counterplay tool that will hardly ever be used except in a dire situation…
Keep OCD out of PVP unless you’ve spent the exorbitant amount of money required to attain it, and keep this “hacking” out of a service that is meant to streamline and optimize in-game lag edit: As well as reward people for playing across multiple seasons and wipes.
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Only because of the current meta of the OCD:
- size of slots - 70k
- attachment to materials in OCD(likely because of amount in each slot)
- time required to get resources
- value of resources
Discussion can help to redefine these things to make hacking a fun feature or not. We can try to help ensure changes that are made get implemented in a way that are fun and interesting or just turn everything down. Hacking is currently the hot debate but there will be other changes that will be equally controversial in the future.
I’m still not sure why you are on this crusade against the OCD. The polls overwhelmingly supported the OCD as-is, and is the main driver of using Connect. Putting it simple, you nerf OCD you risk alienating the long term player base. If you feel opening up a single slot for anywhere OCD by allowing the rest of yours to be exposed to theft, then by all means. Might as well load up an SV with hundreds of cargo boxes and go fly around at a low altitude on GG or Homeworld. The veterans don’t want it, and I’m sure most new players won’t care for it either.
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If at this point you still think I’m against the OCD in any way, shape, or form then you’re not paying any attention to what it is that I want which is to enhance the OCD functionality even if only in an optional way. Of course I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s just more word play to try and claim that I’m somehow anti-OCD once again.
This is why I suggested separation of high/low altitude so it would feel more like carrying one cargo box like people already do on GG and Homeworld.