# Rule 4 concern in 5.3
**URL:** https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/rule-4-concern-in-5-3/4406
**Category:** HWS General Discussion
**Created:** [February 3, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/rule-4-concern-in-5-3/4406 "2017-02-03T14:50:05Z")
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### Author:  [@Xanif](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Xanif)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/rule-4-concern-in-5-3/4406/1 "2017-02-03T14:50:05Z")
> [@4. Limits & Restrictions](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/4-limits-restrictions/4363/1):
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> Lag Engineering: Do NOT build ships with the intention to lag other people to a disadvantage. (excessive lights, triangles, thrusters, etc)
This is a dangerous rule to implement with the current wording. The 5.3 change actively encourages spamming junk sentry guns/small thrusters near the front of your ship to soak turret damage. Without a more flushed out rule I don’t see how you will differentiate a ship spamming turrets/thrusters because it’s the meta or spamming turrets/thrusters to create lag.
I expect the vast majority of cases to be the former rather than the latter.
I, also, have yet to see a ship that is engineered to create lag.
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### Author:  [@hopskotch](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/hopskotch)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/rule-4-concern-in-5-3/4406/2 "2017-02-03T20:38:58Z")
Most rules, like locks, only keep honest people honest. The ruling may discourage people trying - which is still a benefit.
These updates were made for 5.2, 5.3 definitely made some changes that will require updating the guide – They happen faster than the changes can be really understood and the guide updated. 😄
So how would this be better worded in the new Meta?
- Hops