# Using cb:destroy or egs:recycle during battle **URL:** https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/using-cb-destroy-or-egs-recycle-during-battle/6808 **Category:** HWS General Discussion **Created:** [July 30, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/using-cb-destroy-or-egs-recycle-during-battle/6808 "2017-07-30T16:12:41Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 13
### Author: ![Fenix](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/letter_avatar/fenix/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Fenix](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/u/Fenix) #### Post date: [August 2, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/using-cb-destroy-or-egs-recycle-during-battle/6808/13 "2017-08-02T03:02:03Z")
Sigh… ok fine lets hijack the thread and make it all about you 🙄 I’ve been trying to simply ignore Colin & Matt’s egotistical attempts to prove to everybody that they’re kings of the universe and therefore couldn’t possibly have lost unless TCH were using exploits. Unfortunately if you say something enough times people start to believe you: > [@ACM Scorp - Yesterday at 4:43 PM](#): > > yeah i heard of some experienced player flashing CV lights on and off for a few minutes to try and cause DCs 😃 the fools here will try anything I’d rather be doing something else right now so I’m going to be lazy and paste conversations from two days ago on discord: > [@colin2cold - Last Sunday at 2:01 PM](#): > > @Booyaah Op4 will continue living on Homeworld, and Op4 never left Homeworld or got evicted. It’s all recorded, will post the videos of you guys getting smashed for 10-12 hours straight. I wasn’t going to because it’s really embarrassing for UMC but you decided to open your mouth before any of us did. Enjoy 😘 > Op4 faught for 10-12 hours against 20+ people. We had a total of around 5-7 people the entire time. At some points it was just me in the fight, or one other. Everybody else had lost connection or lagged out too hard to play. The game couldn’t handle what we had to offer, the server couldn’t either. Turrets stopped firing. One thing I’m going to mention, in one of my clips I noticed @Zappe21 flashing his spotlights on and then off again while hiding behind his base about 500 meters from my base. I am glad EU uses tactics like this… I am also glad I recorded this. It clearly has him hovering there turning them off and on again over and over. > Let me mention this too, Just so everyone knows… Second time EU has come attack OP4 and the second time one of their ships got ghost cored “right above our bases” ammo drained a lot of our ammo/distracted our turrets. I play this game more than anyone I know… Ghost cores don’t happen anymore. > Let me just add in there… I also don’t see people flash spotlights mid fight. > [@Fenix - Last Monday at 12:33 AM](#): > > I don’t like false accusations so I’ll point out that Zappe wasn’t flying that ship, he was back at base handling logistics. @Dragon-101 was. It was the very first ship flown to the planet (that’s why it had Zappe’s name on it), Dragon flew it into battle and as far as I’m aware immediately lagged out. I don’t think he managed to log back in for the duration of the flight but hopefully he can come here and correct me if I’m wrong. Whatever ‘harm’ you seem to be suggesting this caused you I guarantee it wasn’t intentional. The ghost cored ship was flown by me. I started playing multiplayer empyion a week before the last wipe, so about a month now. I had no idea what a ghost cored ship was and still don’t really. Let me ask you: can you reliably create ghost cored ships? Do you know of any exploit on this server that makes it possible? If not, with all your hours, how do you explain me knowing how to do it? You informed us as soon as I was thrown out my ship and died that the ship was ghost cored. I looked for the ship in my registry but couldn’t access the control panel to get the ID. I told you this and logged into HWS connect to check structure commander. I found the ID, used the cb:destroy command on it and either at that moment or perhaps at the latest 1 min later when the playfield was restarted the ship was gone. All that happened within the space of a few minutes. To try and suggest that had any impact on the outcome of the battle suggests you aren’t aware of the scale of our preparations. We came with 30 HVs and 30 SVs ready to spawn in Zappe’s bp factory. I think we used 6 of each (most returned back to HQ to be repaired and sent back out), although I wasn’t in the tank discord channel so I could be wrong on their numbers. We prepared literally millions upon millions of rounds of ammo as we were preparing for a two day fight. > > I’m sorry about the ghost cored sv that was there for a few minutes at best… probably less sorry about the flashlights 🙄 … but as stated neither were intentional in any way whatsoever and I can guarantee they did not affect the outcome of the fight. > > I should also point out that the lag for us was unbearable. I literally never want to experience anything like that again. I spent most the time flying into the ground unable to control my ship [yes, I have a $3k dollar computer and 100mbit connection with 100ms ping to NA]. More importantly though, I want to point out that I never want to play against you or the few members of OP4 I know the name of. It’s not fun. The battle was fine… well it was meh tbh… partly because of the lag and partly because it was over before we arrived. What’s extremely unpleasant though is your attitude. It stinks. Why am I having to spend my time defending this 💩. Perhaps I shouldn’t. I’m sure everyone knows it already. I’m just not used to it yet. Perhaps I’ll learn. You seem to have gotten off the ghost-core train, perhaps you realised that was a pretty silly thing to be accusing me of. Still banging on about ‘underhanded’ flashlight use though (I’m crying, it’s too funny!) so maybe I should explain some more about how things were on our side. For the first quarter / half of the fight I and all other TCH members experienced less than 1 FPS coupled with the “disconnected from playfield” message constantly popping up literally every 5 seconds (I’m too new to the game to remember exactly what it says, it’s one of the only times I’ve seen it… but you know the one I mean right? It gives you maybe three buttons/options… one is to continue, one is to quit the game). This resulted in us being unable to control our ships; all we could do was watch as our SVs sat mid air or perhaps fell to the ground, all the while getting hit by turret fire. You’d get control again for a second or two then lose it again for another 5-10 and this repeated over and over until the playfield was reset, at which point things behaved a bit better. Bad lag but not constantly losing control of our ships at least. Anyways, I imagine his light appearing to switch on and off on your screen was a result of him repeatedly losing connection to the playfield like the rest of TCH. As you can see in the video, we’re all just sitting there or flying into the ground. Now, my understanding of your point of view is that 1 ship appearing to turn its front and rear spotlight on and off can somehow disconnect people from the server or cause lag or something along those lines? I’m assuming you’ve not been able to reproduce this behaviour despite your video ‘proof’ of how it’s done… but if you honestly think that’s possible then I have an idea for you: [Community event: DDOS HWS with spotlights!](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/community-event-ddos-hws-with-spotlights/6846) --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/using-cb-destroy-or-egs-recycle-during-battle/6808)._