======= NOTICE FOR HELP =======
What happened?
=> unwelcome ships parked ontop of our ships. been there for many days now.
Player(s) with issue? (steam name)
=> JVI
Server? (EU or NA)
=> EU
When did it happen? (Use server time: type ingame cb:time)
=> past week or so and left there.
On which Playfield?
=> ECC
Structure Name(s)?
=> Faction office
Structure ID(s) (Open ingame console and type di)?
=> see image
How can we help you now?
=> remove the offending blockheaps.
7 day timer should get those. could just be noobs that forgot. should be ok as long as they are not blocking doors and such. unfortunately eyesores are not against any rules. i would imagine the faction base is not intended to move and it is public parking after all. i see no need for admin intervention. just patience.
as far i know, blocking other peoples structures with your own is not allowedā¦that includes parking your stuff on other peoples shipsā¦
the ugly CV blob in front is from several new guys that wasnāt online for days now, they are probably new and likely donāt know betterā¦that is not major problem, there is a minimal amount of space between our CVs and it will be taken in 1-2 daysā¦
but the SV on top of our faction office was not just normally landed there, it was carefully (vertically) set into that space, so that itās only function can be to block our CV if we try to move itā¦
unfortunately, it sometimes happens that after the server restart our faction office is loaded in at slightly moved position, just enough to clip into the HQ buildingā¦or into the undocked SV parked directly on top of itā¦the result is mostly that our faction office freaks out and starts jumping around and flipping like crazy while someone tries to stop it (had that several times already with other peoples SVs and our own)ā¦
considering the fact that several people lost access to their exploits because of JVI after last game update, i have very hard time to believe itās just a coincidence that this SV got parked so specifically there only by pure accidentā¦
one canāt assume intentions. it will drive u mad trying to figure out why. as far as i can see there is no issue here. there is no private property anywhere in the universe. the sv on top doesnāt seem to effect anything at all. i have experienced the CV flipouts ur describing but that only seems to happen with docked ships of the same faction. as stated, this is public parking at ECC and nothing is being blocked. no rules broken. no intervention needed. 7day decay timer will remove the obstructions.
yes, i can only assume intentions, and knowing how big part of HWS servers inhabitants react to JVI, i am not very optimistic 
if you want to be 100% exact, that SV is not parked on public parking, it is parked on our factions CV
but if you are telling me that i can land SV on someone elseās ship (as long it is on it and not inside of it) and leave it there without any consequences, that is a good info to have 
not going to argue as it doesnāt help. facts are facts. ur āfaction baseā is actually a ship parked at a mall parking lot. this is not a paid private parking space and deserves no special treatment. the SV itself causes no harm and does not interfere with any actions of a motionless base. it will also be gone after the 7day decay timer. i am curious why there is always a surprise when those that constantly complain are picked on. perhaps more time should be spent playing the game rather than constantly running to mommy and daddy because u feel wronged. the admins have much more important things to do than making and monitoring parking rules. trust me, u should let this go before it wastes any more of ur energy. it is a pointless quest for vengeance here.
Bob, maybe Iām just misunderstanding here, but donāt they have to warp their faction CV away every 7 days to avoid it being deleted?
How are they supposed to warp it away if there are other faction vessels parked on top of it?
If thatās the case they canāt just wait for the 7 day timer to remove the other vessels, since that would also remove their faction CV ābaseā.
Again, maybe Iām just not understanding correctly, and if so just ignore me
arguing? there is a big difference between discussing and arguing, Bobā¦not sure for you, but i like to discuss thing that bother meā¦and it seems we have quite different knowledge of the facts
no one ever said it is our āfaction baseā, we stated several times it is a ship/CV and itās called āfaction officeā
yes, it kinda does interfere with our mobile CV baseā¦as our CV does appear under cb:wipe and we constantly keep getting warnings that our CV will be deleted in xx time because not moved, i do move it once a week, not keen on testing which server function is right; ships on sale can stay or will be deleted for not being moved.
if you can assure me that we can ignore the ingame warnings and our CV wonāt be deleted by the game, i would be very happy to just ignore this kind of childish behaviour.
i personally donāt care about vengeance nor i want admin to punish anyone because of this or something like that.
simple act of moving the SV few meters (towards ECC HQ or up) by anyone would be enough (not 100% sure if HWP can do that)ā¦if not, someone from the HWP team could contact the person owning the ship for him to move it (without disclosing to whom it belongs so there is no āquest for vengeance hereā), that way there is no need to involve admins.
really Bob? just because we would like that people act like a normal (partially rational) human beings and for us to be able to āspend more time playing the gameā without someone constantly interfering with our experienceā¦
u do know cb:getshiphere would have been an easy fix here rather than the time wasted already. last i was aware, both the JVI faction offices were up for sale in NA and EU and do not fall under 7day wipe. either way i still see no need for any of this time suck as the tools we have been given work just fine. trolls usually target the loudest criers. so keep putting a larger target and complain when messed with. not sure why this is even here in the āsupportā section to begin with. seems more like a shame game as usual 
donāt know if it works in this moment, but about a month ago it didnāt work because of either ECC HQ or private ships near, not 100% sure any more which was it
ok, i will take your word on it and test it on next deadline in a day or twoā¦but that means cb:wipe command/function is not working properly
how is that? no one wanted to know who has done it, it was only asked to move the blocking ship (for our CV not to be deleted)ā¦but it could have probably be better explained from the start, i am sorry about that.
we have had ours up for sale for several seasons without the need to move them. we never did get warnings though. i would empty ship before the 7day decay kicks in as a precaution. im sure she is cheap enough to respawn, just be sure not to lose anything in the cargo holds.
also getshiphere has 2 stipulations in PvE. 1: need to be less than 200m from the desired structure, 2: need to be more than 100m from another structure that is not urs. itās a bit of fun to find that sweet spot but can be done. i usually take a plunge in the lake far enough out for it to work. no hard feelings, just trying cut down time wasters that dont need the HWS teamās attentionā¦
we do get the warnings on both servers all the time, that is why i moved themā¦
will do spawn a copy of it tomorrow, letās test which HWS option wins
i am aware of the 2 requirements for getshiphere and all the fun that goes with searching for the right spot 
sorry if i come over as angry or such, itās not my intentionā¦i know that you are trying to reduce load from admins and leave them more time to prepare and fix stuff for next season 
very odd indeed. we have not received one warning on any ships we had for sale for over 3 seasons. be sure to keep screenshots and logs handy in case of a happy little accident that decides to devour ur ship. need to get fixed asap is that is the case
Hi,
thanks @Bob for your attitude, as always, appreciated.
I didnāt read everything here but next time I would also suggest to contact the Old faction and m1ckeyten, why they parked their stuff on yours.
Anyways, I removed both for now.
Would be indeed interesting though, if itās a bug or not. I mean if structures for sale are being wiped after 7 days or not. Shouldnāt be I would sayā¦
@RexXxuS:Thanks for dealing this the issue.
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well, we have the answer, 18-20h after the deadline and both offices are still here, randomly stating one of the 2 messages, ādeletion imminentā or ā0 minutes leftā when checked with cb:wipe,
sounds like itās just the alert setting that needs tweaking. i wouldnāt put in anything of value until a few more days pass to be 100%. we all know what can happen when Murphy is aroundā¦
this ticket isnt even closed yet and someone already lodged there ship inside ours again. {
-cannot move undocked ship inside-
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