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[Advocated_Edict]

Server: NA

Type of Offence Committed: Rule 2 - Political Discussion - Offensive Language

Time/Date of offence: 5:25 PM

Player/Faction accused: Injurious

Player Faction reporting: Advocated Edict

What happened? Someone complained about ammo being so difficult to create. Injurious commented “It’s like the liberals have taken over” after I requested that he cease, he called me “snowflake” and went on to mention “Thank god Ontario took a sharp right turn” (“right” in this context means “right-leaning” on the political spectrum) After I copied the relevant section of Rule 2, he proceeded to call me triggered again

Why did it happen? New people not understanding what “Rules” are

Evidence: Chaplain 5-15 (23:23)
is it just me, or is ammo becoming a pain in the bum to make?
gaspra (23:23)
refresh check it again
Injurious (23:23)
its so expensive now
Sokuaisushi (23:23)
you gotta vote refresh page and click again and click claim reward
Injurious (23:24)
its like the liberals took over the server
Advocated Edict - Today at 5:24 PM
Wow politics
Advocated Edict - Today at 5:24 PM
Can you not do that thank you?
Injurious (23:24)
oops. i offended a snowflake
Advocated Edict - Today at 5:24 PM
I’m center-left and yet I love guns
Advocated Edict - Today at 5:24 PM
I mean, it is one of the rules. No politics.
HWS ChatBOT - Today at 5:25 PM
Injurious (23:25)
thank god ontario took a sharp right turn
Advocated Edict - Today at 5:25 PM
“Religion, Politics, Gender topics do NOT belong in the game! Use Reddit or other discussion pages on the web if you wish to discuss these topics.”
Advocated Edict - Today at 5:25 PM
Rule 2
Injurious (23:26)
hahahha can someone say triggered?

The outcome: I’m back from vacation and will investigate

[Kittiez]

Server: NA

Type of Offence Committed: Transphobia, Hate speech, Harassment, Discriminatory Language

Time/Date of offence: 7/1/2018 ~4:58 EST 11:10 Server (I think)

Player/Faction accused: BlueAvenger and [2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF]

Player Faction reporting: Kittiez

What happened? accusing me of being male due to x, y, and z reasons despite obviously me being female. Would not stop till I muted them.

Why did it happen? Honestly not sure. My guess is they watched my stream and decided to attack me in game because of…uhh…reasons? I honestly have no idea.

Evidence:

[4:53 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Cardboard Jack (10:53)
Makes a nice ship though
[4:53 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:53)
thats right
[4:53 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:53)
give him that
[4:53 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:53)
you got a penis kittiez
[4:53 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:53)
with all that time of no one caring for you, youll get good at something
[4:53 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ranzeth (10:53)
easy there Blue
[4:53 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:53)
@blue probably bigger than your blue
[4:54 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (10:54)
100% bigger than his
[4:54 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:54)
XD
[4:54 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (10:54)
ohhhhh got a little quiet in here lmao
[4:54 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:54)
rip
[4:54 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:54)
nah m8
[4:54 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:55)
if she did, it would be.
[4:55 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:55)
she?
[4:55 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:55)
dont kid your self
[4:55 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:55)
kittiez is actually hot af!
[4:55 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (10:55)
awwwwwww really? thank you <3
[4:55 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:55)
cant make this shyte up.
[4:55 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
DankLife (10:55)
jelly
[4:55 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (10:55)
lmao you got some weird tastes the churro
[4:55 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:55)
^
[4:55 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (10:55)
He likes girls, what’s weird about that?
[4:55 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:55)
your a dude
[4:55 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (10:56)
if you say so
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (10:56)
you’re
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:56)
XD
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Mrgreen (10:56)
ur
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
DankLife (10:56)
2018
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:56)
^
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (10:56)
and if that’s what you think then you’ve got some issues lmfao
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:56)
so why you pretend? act like all those other dude wanna be girls
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:56)
should act like your self
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:56)

[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (10:56)
adams apple gives it away everytime
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:56)
OMG
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Viltru (10:56)
jesus -_-
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:56)
he thinks shes pretending.
[4:56 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:56)
XD
[4:57 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (10:57)
I guess hammer doesn’t know what a girl is. this actually makes a lot of sense now.
[4:57 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Mrgreen (10:57)
Grill?
[4:57 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:57)
good to have a chick in the ts. better than hearing a bunch of dudes
[4:57 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ranzeth (10:57)
could we all be a bit nicer?
[4:57 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (10:57)
its either your a dude or got slapped hard with the manly stick
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:58)
screatchy man voice is not the sound of a chick
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:58)
just saiyan
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Mrgreen (10:58)
yall are crazy girls dont play games
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
SteelPrincess (10:58)
Isn’t this bannable chat, right here?
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (10:58)
it is actually
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Viltru (10:58)
yes
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Riven (10:58)
dude… most girls dont do anything but play games
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Blueberry (10:58)
lol’d ^
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (10:58)
nope
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (10:58)
I figured I’d just mute them and have a quick talk to the police
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:58)
lmfao
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:58)
1st amendment
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:58)
grow some balls
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (10:58)
as we are not call names or being racist
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
SteelPrincess (10:58)
First Amendment don’t apply to private servers.
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Blueberry (10:58)
1st amendment in videogames lolol
[4:58 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (10:59)
sorry meant duragatory comments
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:59)
aww did i hurt your feelings?
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
DankLife (10:59)
space force?
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
SteelPrincess (10:59)
It only applies to government censoring political speech.
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:59)
space porn?
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Mrgreen (10:59)
sjw
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Mrgreen (10:59)
sjw
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:59)
government porn?
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:59)
LMAO
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:59)
tf is goin on here
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Wiseman738/Bobbafet (10:59)
Snake! Snake? SNAAAAAAAKE!
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Mrgreen (10:59)
some one callled the copps
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Mrgreen (10:59)
RUUNNN
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (10:59)
ya’ll can dish it out but cant take it
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (10:59)
you actually give away your first amendment rights when you agree to the TOS/EULA in most games.
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (10:59)
dead snake
[4:59 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ranzeth (11:00)
go back to the EU Wiseman
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Wiseman738/Bobbafet (11:00)
Hahaha Hi Ranzeth
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (11:00)
your a dude kittiez
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Riven (11:00)
considering some of the stuff politicians get up to… i thing govt porn would be pretty extreme
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Wiseman738/Bobbafet (11:00)
How’s you?
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (11:00)
face the truth
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Churra (11:00)
it’s impossible to give away constitutional rights
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ranzeth (11:00)
things are good
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (11:00)
morning wise
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ranzeth (11:00)
how you?
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Wiseman738/Bobbafet (11:00)
Hi Hammer
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Seaden (11:00)
my fav snake is naked snake anyway
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Churra (11:00)
unless you shank a bitch and get a federal ding
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Solid Snake (11:00)
thats how you knock a chick up @seaden
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ranzeth (11:00)
or you vote Trump as President
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ranzeth (11:00)
and he decides it’s important to somebody
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
DankLife (11:01)
im scared rn
[5:00 AM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (11:01)
i aint afraid of no tranny

The outcome: Both got guilty. Keep this trash talk about gender and sexism out of the game please!

[QueenBee]

Server: NA

Type of Offence Committed: Extensive hate speech, transphobia, homophobia, deep ignorance.

Time/Date of offence: July 4th 2018 20:16-20:26

Player/Faction accused: KptnKurt, MCProuty, ViLLaiN, a few other people.

Player Faction reporting: .1% Queen Bee

What happened? Discussion on general topics lead to Issa Churro saying:
Issa Churro (20:16)
i sexually identify as a sports car and im offended by your joke queen
Then gender started being discussed and the hate started spreading all through the chat.

Why did it happen? I honestly tried my best to inform the ignorant people the truth about trans people so they would maybe understand and be less hateful.

Evidence:
KptnKurt (20:15)
2 terms limit max at govt. state. county levels. period.
Issa Churro (20:15)
did you just assume our genders?
Blade (20:15)
queen, you leaking?
Queen Bee (20:15)
Lol
Queen Bee (20:15)
I was making a car joke.
Blade (20:15)
oh
Issa Churro (20:16)
reported
Queen Bee (20:16)
But I was leaking last night wink wONK
KptnKurt (20:16)
what was Dana’s prob?
Issa Churro (20:16)
i sexually identify as a sports car and im offended by your joke queen
Blade (20:16)
uumm, ok
Queen Bee (20:16)
Well then you can sit in your box and cry about it.
Jaxenstein (20:16)
Lol
Hiyatai (20:16)
i sexually identify as a helicoptor
Issa Churro (20:16)
0.0
KptnKurt (20:16)
ppl are now identifying as animals and demanding to be treated like a cat… saw that on the news.
Ranzeth (20:16)
funny story
Queen Bee (20:16)
You can fly into your box and cry about that.
Issa Churro (20:16)
more like hotbox
Ranzeth (20:16)
we have a helicopter cv
Queen Bee (20:16)
Kurt it is fake.
KptnKurt (20:17)
wow… we have left sanity’s building.
RexXxuS (20:17)
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Queen Bee (20:17)
I promis it’s not a real thing.
KptnKurt (20:17)
brb
Blade (20:17)
i identify as an ICBM
Jaxenstein (20:17)
ahem. when was sanity even real… lets be honest here
Queen Bee (20:17)
Then go blow up a country.
Jaxenstein (20:17)
theres no such thing as a truely sane person
Queen Bee (20:17)
I am obv the most sane.
The MadGod (20:17)
we have nothing
Queen Bee (20:17)
Totally…
Rocknrapp44 (20:17)
im sane…the voicrs tell me so…
DjDomination (20:18)
go ahead waste ammo
Queen Bee (20:18)
Shuuush, those are just your other cpu cores.
Blade (20:18)
i’m feeling triggered now
Queen Bee (20:18)
Why?
ViLLaiN (20:18)
There are 3 genders, Male, Female, and Hermaphrodite. Anything else is a psychological disorder.
Blade (20:18)
cause i’m a snowflake
Queen Bee (20:18)
You do realise the hermaphodite is not a gender?
Queen Bee (20:18)
It’s a sex.
ViLLaiN (20:18)
it’s both genders
Queen Bee (20:18)
Oh boy.
Jaxenstein (20:19)
im a bit disappointed. i cant spawn my ship that i used a year ago because now instead of class 7
Blade (20:19)
and girl
Jaxenstein (20:19)
or whatever it was back then its a class 20
Queen Bee (20:19)
Yes blade.
Queen Bee (20:19)
Oh boy and girl.
KptnKurt (20:19)
there are now 63? genders on the official LGBT etc. site.
ViLLaiN (20:19)
Since they have both sexual organs, they are the only ones who get to pick a gender.
MCProuty (20:19)
go to creative and reblueprint it
MCProuty (20:19)
jax
KptnKurt (20:19)
it’s getting more n more complicated.
KptnKurt (20:19)
i feel for female olympic athletes who have trained their entire lives…
Jaxenstein (20:19)
oh that will fix mcprouty?
Empyrion (20:19)
Hello Mr. n8! Welcome to the HWS NA Server. Please press F1 on your keyboard and read the HWS guides or visit our website https://hws.global/. Enjoy your stay on our Server!
D A (20:19)
LGBT is a mental disorder and should be ignored
Queen Bee (20:19)
Think of it this way. If someone found something that they can call themselves and it makes them
KptnKurt (20:20)
only to face men who identify as women in the upcoming olympics.
Queen Bee (20:20)
feel better then let them do it.
Blade (20:20)
who all in here hates what Trump is doing to this country
Queen Bee (20:20)
Kurt that is very transphobic.
KptnKurt (20:20)
the OIC said they will NOT be testing for gender in the 2020 olympics.
KptnKurt (20:20)
not really (transphopbic) more like reality.
Queen Bee (20:20)
Have you ever been friends with a trans woman?
Ranzeth (20:20)
Kurt makes a valid point
MCProuty (20:20)
lol
Queen Bee (20:20)
Not really.
MCProuty (20:20)
this. is. great
Kittiez (20:20)
no it’s transphobic
Queen Bee (20:20)
^
ViLLaiN (20:20)
Transphobic?
KptnKurt (20:20)
men are typically / statistically stronger faster than women on the whole.
Ranzeth (20:21)
Men build muscle faster then women
Kittiez (20:21)
and do you know why?
ViLLaiN (20:21)
Is there a such thing as Schizophobic?
Ranzeth (20:21)
that’s a fact
Queen Bee (20:21)
Men pretending to be women for compititions is a myth.
Jaxenstein (20:21)
so is the exp system so messed up that harvesting plants gives more exp than anything i can kill…
KptnKurt (20:21)
Empyrion is transphobic then as well - using that kind of logic.
MCProuty (20:21)
lol other than when it happens
Blade (20:21)
or did you mean hole?
Kittiez (20:21)
because of testosterone. trans women don’t have testosterone.
Jaxenstein (20:21)
because so far harvesting plants has given me better results than anything else
Queen Bee (20:21)
You do know the only reason men do that is because of hormones.
Ranzeth (20:21)
who say they are pretending just for the competition
D A (20:21)
I try not to befriend mentally disturbed individuals is its safer that way
Chaplain 5-15 (20:21)
Actually Queenbee Russia got in trouble for that
XXSWFXX (20:21)
exp is variable on kills
KptnKurt (20:21)
I mean…when you created your char… you were given but TWO choices regarding sex
Dhalgren (20:21)
Jax: sounds about right
Ranzeth (20:21)
maybe they do in fact identify that way?
XXSWFXX (20:21)
plants are just faster if you have a big garden
Queen Bee (20:21)
Well everyone has testosterone just different levels.
Ranzeth (20:21)
yes Queen Bee
KptnKurt (20:22)
where is the RAGE folks?
Ranzeth (20:22)
that’s true
Queen Bee (20:22)
It is apart of the normal endochrine system.
Kittiez (20:22)
just report them, rex has already made it clear this is not acceptable
Jaxenstein (20:22)
well i mean… i have 500 steel growing plots so
Ranzeth (20:22)
and men have more
Jaxenstein (20:22)
id say probaly is
Queen Bee (20:22)
Yes.
Ranzeth (20:22)
men build muscle faster
MCProuty (20:22)
lol
KptnKurt (20:22)
recover faster.
Ranzeth (20:22)
and are typically stronger then women
Queen Bee (20:22)
But trans women have the hormones of a genetic woman.
Queen Bee (20:22)
And so they are equal in muscle.
BoostHungry (20:22)
god damn, what did I log in to? Everyone should 100% drop this subject immediately before
XXSWFXX (20:22)
If you can find a drone base and just keep killing aliens that is fast but garden is easier and
BoostHungry (20:22)
people report you
KptnKurt (20:22)
uh… the testoterone levels are much higher…
XXSWFXX (20:22)
less deadly
Queen Bee (20:22)
Kurt.
Queen Bee (20:23)
Do
MCProuty (20:23)
lol trans women as in
Queen Bee (20:23)
You
Queen Bee (20:23)
Have
MCProuty (20:23)
used to be a guy
ViLLaiN (20:23)
Why is that when someone claims to be 2 different people in the same body, we put them in an Asylum.
Queen Bee (20:23)
any trans friends.
KptnKurt (20:23)
Texas may have it right… in sports College / High School / etc. …you must
MCProuty (20:23)
do you think it changes DNA?
MCProuty (20:23)
or actual muscle mass
D A (20:23)
im reporting people pushin agendas and promoting hate
KptnKurt (20:23)
compete according to what’s on your birth certificate
MCProuty (20:23)
lol
ViLLaiN (20:23)
But when someone claims to be a man trapped in a womans body, we support it?
KptnKurt (20:23)
maybe that’s a good solution?
Queen Bee (20:23)
Oh boy, people are dumb.
KptnKurt (20:23)
fair.
Maniacal (20:23)
trans women are dominating women league sports
Blade (20:23)
queen, you are people too
Dhalgren (20:23)
I’m a lesbian stuck in a man;s body.
Issa Churro (20:23)
i smell a ban comin
MCProuty (20:23)
lol Im just saying I would never bet on a female born as a female in a fair fight against a former
MCProuty (20:23)
dude
RichyN25 (20:23)
who cares what someone chooses to live as, as long as they fund their own transition, still compete
Queen Bee (20:23)
Dna does not control how your muscles grow, it is mostly hormones.
KptnKurt (20:24)
what about the 55? year old man - lving now as an adopted 6 year old girl? canada?
Zurkhan™ (20:24)
why is gender the go to topic here?
RichyN25 (20:24)
in sports that best fit their hormones
KptnKurt (20:24)
does a line get drawn ANYWHERE?
RichyN25 (20:24)
and tell a partner they used to be X
Queen Bee (20:24)
I have that same question Kurt.
RichyN25 (20:24)
live and let be
KptnKurt (20:24)
it’s kinda fascinating to witness society dissolving.
RichyN25 (20:24)
^^^^
D A (20:24)
this entire discussion has no room in games and is not appropriate
Queen Bee (20:24)
I really don’t understand why people here are so trans and homophobic.
Issa Churro (20:24)
*sad kurt its *sad
MCProuty (20:24)
sigh
Queen Bee (20:25)
The rules say to drop this.
MCProuty (20:25)
mutemutemutemute
KptnKurt (20:25)
same phenomenon as ppl slowing down to check out a highway accident.
Queen Bee (20:25)
And yet people constantly joke about it.
darthn8er369 (20:25)
Wow, its all BookFace up in here
RichyN25 (20:25)
I have no issues with trans or homophobic people, I have a few friends who are
Queen Bee (20:25)
Thank you Kittiez.
MCProuty (20:25)
lol not hjaving the same viewpoint as you is not transphobic or anything else
Kittiez (20:25)
ofc queen bee <3
MCProuty (20:25)
its called having an opinion
Blade (20:25)
i like burning ants with a magnifing glass
KptnKurt (20:25)
one of the members of the Bildeberg group - he’s on the steering committee that inducts new
Kibrisli (20:25)
guys just stop please… there is no way to argue about it… your not changeing anyones minde…
Queen Bee (20:25)
But calling people who are trans metally ill is transphobic…
Dhalgren (20:25)
. ther we just eat each other
Rabid (20:25)
"derp’
Kibrisli (20:25)
just play the goddame game…
Issa Churro (20:25)
hey queen b bb. wanna come have some canned vegies with me?
KptnKurt (20:26)
members says that a bloodless war is being waged right now…
KptnKurt (20:26)
for the minds and hearts of the ppl
SteelPrincess (20:26)
Oh gods, not this conversation yet again… for like the third day in a row…

The outcome: please keep this topic OUT of Empyrion global chat! @mcprouty @KptnKurt @QueenBee and others! IF you ever feel uncomfortable press B on your keyboard and click on the MUTE icon in the list! Especially while we are asleep we can’t babysit the chat on NA. Please just follow our Community & Chat rules!

[mreap]

Server: EU

Type of Offence Committed: Camping at Stargate. No other way out

Time/Date of offence: 15:02pm 5th July 2018

Player/Faction accused: OPG Faction

Player Faction reporting: UFP (mreap)

What happened? I asked RaxXxus for help as Stargate was not showing on map. So asked in chat as no other way to contact Admin. Finally found it but OPG Faction camping at Titan Stargate. 2 of them. Structure Target was Ezhik and babajaga. Don’t know players name.

Why did it happen? I asked for help in chat and they must of seen message and decided to camp there waiting for me…

Evidence: Image Attached

I lost all Resources, mining cores, Fuel, Warp Crystals, 2 Contains of Water Jugs, Ingots, Ores,CV, SV. I had almost a full cargo of each Ingot resource… now lost forever.

Outcome: As mentioned before: Supergates are highly contested and Titan is not meant for “exploring”. It is a high contested PvP location you have to prepare for in and out. We will think about Supergates and their anti grief distance in the future though

[Rabid]

Server: NA

Type of Offence Committed: Fairplay building violation

Time/Date of offence: 12:00 Pm, 7/13.

Player/Faction accused: Op4, player in violation will be saved to the core of the ship as the original creator

Player Faction reporting: ABN, Rabid

What happened? Another base with ground filler exploit, this base actually has combat steel walls with dirt walls sandwiched in between the whitespace.

Why did it happen? Totally innocent here : ) found it hunting structures/players on homeworld

Evidence: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1440135467
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1440135787
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1440136020

The outcome: Base removed.

[boosthungry]

Server : NA

Type of Offence Committed: Exploit: CV Sponge ammo draining and drawing fire away from SVs on GG

Time/Date of offence: 7/13 ~10:00 PM EST

Player/Faction accused : [ACP] TheRaven

Player Faction reporting: [BYA] BoostHungry

What happened? Brought an illegally large CV down to GG and absorbed fire from a Base while SVs attacked turrets

Why did it happen? I was just trying to get rich quick mining gold minding my own business! I swear!

Evidence:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xWOy6yDHL7T769vv2B1edC1iYtUnXpb8/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mSDcImlMrGy_ihtYaNqPJ0O-B43iuXLJ/view?usp=sharing

I also have another 3 minute video showing them stick around and do nothing but absorb damage

The outcome: (Our Verdict, within 24 hours-Check back to see this updated and what action was taken)

[gurafik1]

Server : EU

Time/Date of offence: Yesterday

Faction accused : ACM

Faction reporting: OPG

What happened? 9. Illegal Building

Evidence:

Outcome: Ship is gone / is being rebuilding. Punishment with RP loss after checking the backup ship.

[1cat2]

Continuing the discussion from HWS Police - Report a crime:

Continuing the discussion from HWS Police - Report a crime:

server : EU
type of offence clipping turrets
Time/Date of offence: Yesterday at ecc
Faction accused : OPG
what was seen: clipping turrets

evidence

Outcome: ship is gone. Faction RP loss.

[THEBIGBOSS]

Server NA
Faction accused ABN Kittiez
what happened:HWS is a family friendly server. Do not post swearing or other bad words in global chat - keep it clean!

2h

chalengerad (02:56)
how do i get free stuff?
MCProuty (02:56)
lol
Seaden (02:56)
when i do registry it whos only the waypoint
Kittiez (02:56)
by sucking dick
chalengerad (02:56)
can i suck yours?
MCProuty (02:56)
wow fuggoff kittiez

This was taken off na chat, i had a pm that things we’re kicking off

I just warned her about her comment.

the faction, leader pm’d me and i relayed the rule 2.1

then i had reply
Kittiez (03:04)
if this is a family server then you need to start doing your job and cracking down on the hate speec

I declined to comment…
really…
that person disrespected Gareth the police and Homeworld Server

Outcome: Punished with RP loss + guilty. Each case is seen separately and one example does not give someone an example to use it in another example. Report each example and we take care of each example.

[Kittiez]

Server: (NA

Type of Offence Committed: Sexual Harassment

Time/Date of offence: (Roughly/Date ofc accurate/cb:time)

Player/Faction accused: [2ndLt]W.Hammer[PTF] - OP4

Player Faction reporting: Kittiez - ABN

What happened? A conversation about turret clipping somehow devolved into insulting me and trash talking my out of game life.

Why did it happen? I wasn’t even a part of this conversation, I was online working on one of my ships.

Evidence: [3:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (21:51)
take you cv and rotate it and see what clips
[3:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Bael (21:51)
aren’t ok and peoples stuff are going poof
[3:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Bael (21:51)
like no toaster racks anymore period.
[3:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Bael (21:51)
all thanks to EU trying to rule break eeach other
[3:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
shadowfoxx6 (21:51)
toaster rack?
[3:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (21:51)
yep casue some ppl complain all the time even tho when turrets clip they dont fire generally
[3:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Bael (21:51)
darn russians and euros
[3:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Bael (21:52)
Think about a toaster Shadow.
[3:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Bael (21:52)
now instead of bread stick a turret in there
[3:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
shadowfoxx6 (21:52)
eeewwwww
[3:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Bael (21:52)
then imagine a rack of toasters
[3:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (21:52)
lmao
[3:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
SmugFrog (21:52)
Now imagine a toast wearing lipstick
[3:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
SmugFrog (21:52)
and rubbing butter on itself
[3:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
SmugFrog (21:52)
now look at me
[3:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
SmugFrog (21:52)
now back to the toast.
[3:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Bael (21:53)
Old spice commericial
[3:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (21:53)
ohhh kittez would like that
[3:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
RexXxuS (21:53)
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[3:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
ZipSnipe (21:53)
man I need that music for Apocalypse Now
[3:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Bael (21:53)
I dont think she single Hammer, flirting wont get you anywhere
[3:54 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
[2ndLt] W.Hammer [PTF] (21:54)
lmao you would need lots of plastic surgey and some other stuff first
[3:54 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Bael (21:54)
Solid Snake is single though

The outcome: RP loss + Credits loss + Guilty. Next time more. Press B and mute him in general. I hope one day NA grows up, I must prepare for 8.2 and have better things to do, please.

[Tripwire]

Server: NA

Type of Offence Committed: Sexuality Harassment

Time/Date of offence: 17 July 2018 05:33 thru 0614 aprox…

Player/Faction accused: Ucka Bucka [HvC]

Player Faction reporting: (TCB) Tripwire

What happened? A conversation about a Kittiez - ABN sexuality is not a good conversation to be having on the general chat line. Even if you mute the offending person they dont know you have and they continue filling the chat with sexuality comments, Thus has been going on for some time but it really needs to be stopped. Honestly its getting rather annoying to see and read. I also believe it is creating a hostile play area on the server for no reason.

Why did it happen? While several of us were battling Ucka he started in on Kittiez about being a chin boy and other assorted things. This is simply inappropriate and needs to be addressed or it could get to far out of hand and become a real legal issue.

Evidence: See copy and pasted discussions below from the server chat box.
START:
[11:32 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Calolim (05:32)
gogogo reverse
[11:32 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Horde_Slayer (05:32)
XD
[11:32 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:32)
i feel bad for your S key
[11:32 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:33)
i feel sorry for your life
[11:33 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:33)
i guess ucka bucka is scared to fight
[11:33 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:33)
: o )
[11:33 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Horde_Slayer (05:33)
lol internet warrior aye?
[11:33 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:33)
and your chin
[11:33 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
SteelPrincess (05:33)
It’s funny watching your missiles and lasers miss my ship 90% of the time.
[11:40 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
NEGAN (05:40)
Why do auto miners dissapear?
[11:40 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Calolim (05:40)
surface wipe
[11:40 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
NEGAN (05:40)
But bases don’t?
[11:41 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Calolim (05:41)
water gens/auto miners are normally removed with surface wipe
[11:41 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Calolim (05:41)
and base depends where you are at
[11:41 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:41)
thank you
[11:41 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:41)
off too vahalla
[11:42 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
NEGAN (05:42)
they can a$$ wipe me too
[11:42 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Lenaius (05:42)
I made a small purchase on the website, how do i claim it
[11:42 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Calolim (05:42)
it takes up to 24 hrs for some of them to be applied to your account @lenaius
[11:43 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Lenaius (05:43)
gahh, want to leave starter planet in a decent ship. restarting a char from scratch is a pain
[11:44 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Calolim (05:44)
if you get off in sv the HQ are all pve I think
[11:44 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Lenaius (05:44)
probably starved for res due to amount of players
[11:47 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Druithynn (05:47)
ffs
[11:47 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Druithynn (05:47)
cant even stgart
[11:48 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:48)
great fight op4. it’s fun watching you run away
[11:48 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:48)
more lies
[11:48 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:48)
.unlike your chin
[11:48 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Silent Reaper (05:48)
wrong choir to preach to
[11:48 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:48)
who needs to lie when I have video? all you do is S key
[11:49 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:49)
im fight 4 of you and a grand tie shhhh
[11:49 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:49)
lfightn
[11:49 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:49)
you started the fight
[11:49 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:49)
yeh and im still here shhh
[11:49 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:49)
running away
[11:49 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:49)
as usual
[11:49 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:49)
your a joke
[11:49 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:50)
you’re
[11:50 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:50)
spelling nazi
[11:50 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:50)
coward
[11:50 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:50)
its faster your
[11:50 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:50)
so w.e
[11:50 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:50)
it’s faster ur
[11:50 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:50)
so w/e
[11:50 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:50)
ur is actually better thx
[11:50 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:50)
it is, glad i can teach you something. now let me teach you how to fight
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:51)
you aint teaching nothing
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:51)
buy garage ship, 3v1, and talk shit, LOL
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:51)
you run with 4 of you
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:51)
: o)
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:51)
thats Really Funny i agree ucka
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:51)
consider this your warning BA. cursing is against the rules.
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:51)
ur chin though
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:51)
i got 6 more warnings
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:51)

[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
SteelPrincess (05:51)
Nobody is running, we’re just not chasing someone running backwards.
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:51)
we’ll see what gareth has to say about that
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:52)
cry me a river
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:52)
build a bridge
[11:51 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:52)
what that your chin looks like a mans?
[11:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:52)
and get over it
[11:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:52)
i hope you drown in that river
[11:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
RexXxuS (05:52)
Type cb:tip in chat to get useful information about HWS and boost your gameplay to a next level!
[11:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:52)
thats mean
[11:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:52)
chat logs will prove you started flapping your chin
[11:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:52)
so im returning the words
[11:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:52)
why you gota be so rude?
[11:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:52)
im not the one calling a girl a man.
[11:52 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:53)
im not pretending
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:53)
you sound mad that i think your chin looks manly
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
FvkYourPotato (05:53)
this is amusing
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:53)
sry i dont pretend
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Horde_Slayer (05:53)
grabs popcorn*
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:53)
just say it, you’re mad that you can never be with a girl as hot as me.
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:53)
*Puts Hand Up
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:53)
so you have to berate me to feel better about yourself
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:53)
hahahhahahhahahahah
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
(TCB) Tripwire (05:53)
sitting here eating popcorn while Uka is backing away
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
JEEBUS CHRISTABUS (05:53)
I remember when I was in high school…
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
RexXxuS (05:53)
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[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Horde_Slayer (05:53)
XD ^^
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:53)
you talkin smack, and i simply say, how it was
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:54)
that a CRIME?
[11:53 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:54)
lmao
[11:54 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:54)
keep it goin if thats what makes u feel good lie on
[11:54 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:54)
crazy
[11:54 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:54)
im right here 4v 1 lets go : o )
[11:54 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
(TCB) Tripwire (05:54)
Lie about you backing away?
[11:54 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:54)
waiting for you to show up
[11:54 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
(TCB) Tripwire (05:54)
heck I have that on video
[11:54 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:54)
calm down chin boy
[11:55 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:55)
turtle up to that grand tie
[11:55 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Deapri (05:55)
Looks like things are getting a little personal for a game chat don’t you guys think?
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[11:55 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
jadziadaxxxx (05:55)
What is wrong with you
[11:55 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
SmugFrog (05:55)
hm
[11:55 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
FvkYourPotato (05:55)
dont give them a reason to stop this is entertaining lol
[11:55 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Horde_Slayer (05:56)
hi
[11:56 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
HordeSlayer (05:56)

[11:56 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:56)

.< /
[11:56 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:56)
i win again
[11:56 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:56)
lol look at you running again.
[11:56 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:56)
LOL you ran again
[11:56 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:56)
why u gys back up from jhust me when u r like 5-6 now
[11:56 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
(TCB) Tripwire (05:56)
if thats a win we all are winners LOL
[11:56 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:57)
so so so sad
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Horde_Slayer (05:57)
lol
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
(TCB) Tripwire (05:57)
you are the one backing LOL
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:57)
not gonna waste time on somebody who keeps running away
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:57)
you guys run from 1 person
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
SmugFrog (05:57)
oh it’s that time of the night
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BluesDriveMonster (05:57)
I AM A WINNER
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:57)
so bad
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:57)
uninstall
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:57)
feel free to.
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:57)
nobody is making you play this game
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:57)
victory is mine again
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BluesDriveMonster (05:57)
my mom makes me play
[11:57 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Horde_Slayer (05:58)
rly XD
[11:58 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:58)
.made you all stop what you r doing to come and dight 1v 5
[11:58 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:58)
gratz on your “victory” ucka. we are all VERY proud of you.
[11:58 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:58)
.lawlz winning
[11:58 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:58)
Repaired
[11:58 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Silent Reaper (05:58)
thank you sir
[11:58 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Horde_Slayer (05:58)
i was coming for gold
[11:58 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:58)
lie some more man chin
[11:58 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Horde_Slayer (05:58)

[11:58 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:58)
: o )
[11:58 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:58)
you are very talented, and an awesome pvper.
[11:58 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:59)
hey kittez thanks for compliment
[11:59 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BluesDriveMonster (05:59)
you win… I have your prize
[11:59 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:59)
saweet
[11:59 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Kittiez (05:59)
you are the greatest, everybody loves you. you are the best on the server.
[11:59 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:59)
can you hear that reaper?
[11:59 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:59)
no
[11:59 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Silent Reaper (05:59)
yeah
[11:59 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Ucka Bucka [HvC] (05:59)
not the best but i am proud off my manly chin
[11:59 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
BlueAvenger (05:59)
im making music
[11:59 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Silent Reaper (06:00)
boombong
[11:59 PM] BOTHWS Chat:
Spooni™ (06:00)
where do i claim the items i bought on the marketplace?
:END

What I would like seen done about this is the offending people get punished accordingly and they stop the badgering.

Outcome: How often should I tell that this is not tollerated? Keep your personal insults out of the game! Temporary banned + RP / Credits loss + guilty

[ZipSnipe]

Server: NA

Type of Offence Committed: Wall hacking

Time/Date of offence: Eastern time 6:50pm 7/17/2018

Player/Faction accused: Ave/ Reaper

Player Faction reporting: ACP/ ZipSnipe

What happened? I attacked the Ave base on GG, I made it inside the base when I was blocked in by blocks. Ave faction member Reaper was able to shoot through the blocks and kill me, he was also able to walk through the blocks and I could not.

Why did it happen? Other than I used an over the block limit cv to gain entry, I only was trying to blast my way in which is the way I thought we are supposed to play. They(Ave) are using some type of interlocking different bases trick with doors mixed into the blocks

Evidence: https://youtu.be/-YcUHfNoQA8

The outcome: The missing part in the video was your CV. Because this is the variable which caused this Crime ticket. Nothing is clipped there from the base point of view.

[Ranzeth]

Server: NA

Type of Offence Committed: Tackling

Time/Date of offence: July 17th, 2:23 server time

Player/Faction accused: PKA/Jaydog

Player Faction reporting: ACP/ Ranzeth

I was shooting an enemy base with my SV (wasn’t moving) and a PKA member flew straight into me. He was fully inside of me, took about 30 to untangle, in the meantime I was taking base fire and could not move.

Evidence:

[Album] Imgur

The outcome: Waiting for the video of Big Red / Jaydog. At 1:43 in the video you can however clearly see that it was either intentional from both parties (Ranz pressed S on the keyboard) or accident (logical).

[TheRaven]

======= NOTICE FOR HELP =======

What happened: Tackling by op4 RED
Player(s) with issue: TheRaven
Server: NA
Time (cb:time): 18-JULY 02:50
Playfield: GG
Structure Name(s): NA
Structure ID(s): NA
Outcome: Waiting for Big Reds video. It doesn’t look like by intention and it didn’t break a rule here either because your job to soak all turret damage was settled, with a SV inside your SpongeBob or without. If you would be in the process of leaving and he rammed you, it would be something different.