PVE planets overcrowded

That would be fine by me, I but I imagine people would like variety.

Maybe avoid lava planets, as they’re very harsh to live on, even if we make it barren. Nova is desert (if I remember correctly) and then we’d have a snow world, maybe make a forest or akua kind of world for the third one?

Yeah…snow would be awesome, and like Earth!

Please if nova is going to be wiped, make an announce or something first so we can migrate to the new planets!

This.

Also, if people want to stay on Nova, (and this is just a suggestion) then perhaps give them some kind of reduced blueprint time, so they can blueprint their bases to be remade? Perhaps even spawn it in for them so they don’t lose ingots from the wipe?

I personally already have a backup CV and HQ ready to go (I’ll be moving from Nova to new planet to help cut down on the lag on Nova) but everyone else may not be as lucky.

i stopped buuilding my base and have cv and two svs waiting for the new planets hehe

Warning: 2 new fresh planets were added. “New Hope” and “Fortune” (don’t ask me why I named them like this… :stuck_out_tongue:) - in Nova Orbit. Move from Nova to there to reduce the issues there

Can we expect to see some if not all of these new planets on the NA server?

NA is Luckily smooth in performance so far. If not we need to add them too yes

I have actually crashed on Nova with the small amount of bases on the planet, and it was very laggy when I was hitting POI. Might just be my PC, afterall I do play on a laptop.

I’ve crashed once on nova as well but I think it’d be cool just to have those extra planets for variety even if they aren’t needed.

2 new PVE planets in the Nova Milk Way now lads.

[quote=“Duke”]
Why don’t we set a rule so if your faction has a combined playtime between all of you (which I believe can be seen with cb:info, or something) THEN you can rent a planet (or be gifted one?)
That way the more dedicated players like TinyDewDrop, get a safe spot, and the rest of the server could go PVP for all he would care, he would be safe.[/quote]

Just to get your creative thinking going, what about planet ownership based on faction types i.e. Alliance, Traders…etc??

Why don’t we settle the issues of “too many ppl on one planet” and “CV/BA numbers on planet” by giving 1 planet to each faction type and let them defend, build and allow others on it as THEY see fit? Keep them PVP planets, but then like faction types can help other same faction types. Builds a sense of unity and predictability. And who knows, what IF the Pirates overrun Alliance on their “homeworld” and capture it? It might be pretty interesting trying to work with the other faction types to try to take it back or “rent space” on other planets until they can get their planet back.

Just for example:
Alliance get - Jupiter or Saturn (more centrally located)
Traders get - Hoard (gold, duh)
Bounty Hunters get - Neptune or Uranus (similarly centrally located)
Pirates get - Mars (b/c only bad guys live on Mars :smiley: )
Lawless get nothing.

why m8?

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B/C making “Faction Type” (Alliance, Trader etc.) planets PVE would be:

  • no fun; too many PVE planets and no element of “capturing the enemy planet” would be possible in PVE
  • too easy for those on that planet to hide in safety.
  • we already have PVE planets.
  • Jimmy crack corn and I don’t care. :slight_smile:

[quote=“Jelloburger”]B/C making “Faction Type” (Alliance, Trader etc.) planets PVE would be:

  • no fun; too many PVE planets and no element of “capturing the enemy planet” would be possible in PVE
  • too easy for those on that planet to hide in safety.
  • we already have PVE planets.
  • Jimmy crack corn and I don’t care. :slight_smile:[/quote]

I guess. But nobody will use them then tbh. PVE bases outnumber PVP bases 50 to 1. Not to mention that we wont get traders killing other traders. How would anybody prove it? You could join up as a trader, go to trader world, settle down, wait until your next door neighbour is out, steal his shit and…

wait this sounds fun as fuck for shitters. Keep my Nova PVE planets and you can make the rest of the universe PVP, you’ve actually legit changed my mind tbh.

[quote=“Duke”]

wait this sounds fun as fuck for shitters. Keep my Nova PVE planets and you can make the rest of the universe PVP, you’ve actually legit changed my mind tbh.[/quote]

LOL…see, my Jedi Mind Tricks are working. :smiley:

PvP event on PvE planet is nonsense. No PvE base can withstand PvP attack. This can lead to only one thing, build PvP base on PvE planet to survive this event. And if there is something we realy dont need its PvP base on PvE planet.
We want small nice bases on PvE.

Question is why is everyone moving to PvE? Thats what is THE PROBLEM. And answer is simple. Becouse there is no diplomacy, noone respects factions like Traders, Alliance and so on. There is nothing like safe place to stay, i mean safer place to stay. Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars should be like PvE planets when it comes to safety. Its all nearly impossible to do somehow, as Empyrion dont allow any advanced diplomacy and stuff, but for me its ppl who dont know how to play and Factions which are not working. ANd I mean not working at all.

Its only Free for all, while players are pushed to be in very small factions be game itself. OP, no rights for members, no advanced ranks, no diplomacy.
Again its up to players to make it work and its not much likely to happen.

The biggest problem is existance of Lawless Faction which is worse than pirates but able to stay on PvE, thats nonsense. Im lawless now, i can attack anyone on Nova orbit but i can safely hide in minute to planet. No punishment. So i can wait for newbies im much powerfull ship but i can hide easily when outnumbered. I dont need to respect any rules, treaties and stuff. Everyone is sooner or later lawless. Nonsense. But best thing one can do.

I can be alliance and wait on Nova Orbit for Lawless, shot at him and then he hides. Waste of time im not going to be Alliance under these conditions.

But what we need?
We need to create safe space in inner ring and dangerous PvP space in outer ring. PvE planet should be only for PvE ppl, Traders only maybe. There is rule on Galaxy9 server, no PvP if you have PvE base. Also you are not allowed to destroy PvP HQ Core so ppl cant loose all, they can loose containers but not HQ hull. Consider this.
But how can we create some safer civilised space? Answer is again easy, we cant. We simply cant. Becouse there are lawless, on Nova and on Venus, they are everywhere fighting everyone. Free for all, there are no factions, only Lawless all on PvE planet.
Noone knows whos enemy, noone knows if shot or wait and be shot. Im ok i find my way but its not working at all.

We need TRUE factions which ppl will respect. Like on Red vs Blue. If you are Blue and meat Red you know its enemy. Done.
I still hope that someday there will be safe space guarded by Alliaances. For Each planet inner planet one alliance, helping ppl there, helping neighbor alliances if necessary.
And i hope that one day ill see Lawless are not permited to build on PvE.

I missed the point but im sick of Empyrion forums already.

[quote=“Elfias”]PvP event on PvE planet is nonsense. No PvE base can withstand PvP attack. This can lead to only one thing, build PvP base on PvE planet to survive this event. And if there is something we realy dont need its PvP base on PvE planet.
We want small nice bases on PvE.

Question is why is everyone moving to PvE? Thats what is THE PROBLEM. And answer is simple. Becouse there is no diplomacy, noone respects factions like Traders, Alliance and so on. There is nothing like safe place to stay, i mean safer place to stay. Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars should be like PvE planets when it comes to safety. Its all nearly impossible to do somehow, as Empyrion dont allow any advanced diplomacy and stuff, but for me its ppl who dont know how to play and Factions which are not working. ANd I mean not working at all.

Its only Free for all, while players are pushed to be in very small factions be game itself. OP, no rights for members, no advanced ranks, no diplomacy.
Again its up to players to make it work and its not much likely to happen.

The biggest problem is existance of Lawless Faction which is worse than pirates but able to stay on PvE, thats nonsense. Im lawless now, i can attack anyone on Nova orbit but i can safely hide in minute to planet. No punishment. So i can wait for newbies im much powerfull ship but i can hide easily when outnumbered. I dont need to respect any rules, treaties and stuff. Everyone is sooner or later lawless. Nonsense. But best thing one can do.

I can be alliance and wait on Nova Orbit for Lawless, shot at him and then he hides. Waste of time im not going to be Alliance under these conditions.

But what we need?
We need to create safe space in inner ring and dangerous PvP space in outer ring. PvE planet should be only for PvE ppl, Traders only maybe. There is rule on Galaxy9 server, no PvP if you have PvE base. Also you are not allowed to destroy PvP HQ Core so ppl cant loose all, they can loose containers but not HQ hull. Consider this.
But how can we create some safer civilised space? Answer is again easy, we cant. We simply cant. Becouse there are lawless, on Nova and on Venus, they are everywhere fighting everyone. Free for all, there are no factions, only Lawless all on PvE planet.
Noone knows whos enemy, noone knows if shot or wait and be shot. Im ok i find my way but its not working at all.

We need TRUE factions which ppl will respect. Like on Red vs Blue. If you are Blue and meat Red you know its enemy. Done.
I still hope that someday there will be safe space guarded by Alliaances. For Each planet inner planet one alliance, helping ppl there, helping neighbor alliances if necessary.
And i hope that one day ill see Lawless are not permited to build on PvE.
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I completely agree. Let fractions will be smaller and it will be more clear.

Great idea and I very much agree. I had a very similar idea in this thread here (page 3, scroll down to find the comment): viewtopic.php?f=6&t=154&start=20

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[quote=“Duke”]The PVP in this game is still a bit lacking tbh, so basing the game around it is dumb.

However if you guys wanted a more bloodthirsty kind of server, here is a great method for how it could work.

  1. Move the Nova system to where the elemental marketplace is on the “spiral” for warp jumps.
    This will give it a “centre of the universe” kind of feel, and will encourage people to branch out and travel to other systems (PVP systems) now its not such a huge resource drain to do so.

  2. Set every planet outside the Nova system to PVP
    Every planet, moon and orbit outside Nova (and its 3 planets) should be PVP. That way, people will see much more action.

Point 3 is the most important.
3) Make it so the further from Nova you travel, the better the resources are in both quality and quantity
So you want Zascosium Ore or Erestrum Ore? You better be ready to travel for it. You could also have a VERY rare chance of Gold Meteors spawning on far away planets, to encourage people to try and hunt for them.

SO
With my 3 ideas combined, we will have a server that:
Will allow safe/PVE playstyle
Will encourage risk/reward PVP
Will have an active travel economy (blue crystals will sell for more)
Encourage travel for mining, and hunting down rare meteors.
Will make it so PVP is seen more as a “risk” for great reward, rather than something to actively avoid.

That’s just my idea anyway. I think its better than some people screaming “hurrr make it all PVP, all the time, everywhere.” Dude nobody will play a full PVP server. People will join, get wrecked at level 2, and bail, or they’d have to play when server pop is low to avoid other people. It would absolutely suck.[/quote]

Yes Elfias,

I am a bit tired of the nature on this topic and the limited way we can deal with it.
The big advantage is that we can program our own stuff / automate some things though.

Because sure we can say all Trader paint your ships green and Alliance blue, etc. but we can’t check it. It is again only a rule. And what if people don’t follow it? Drama all over the place.

With rule 6 it is a bit better than before but regarding Lawless we are not finished yet.
The problem with lawless is they are not only people like you or Thranir. They are also just normal casual gamer who can’t read / understand / want our HWS Story. So if we enforce that rule also to lawless they becoming Alliance and doing bad thing too. Again drama all over the place.

So for now in the new universe I will take care of Dukes suggestion and other little improvements about routes and locations where you have to think twice how you play.

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