Serious: deactivate Offline Protection for 3.0

I know ahax that this is your biggest problem: you don’t be able to get your revenge. We can make a rule that people don’t be able to do that but you know everyone will laugh at this rule after you show up with 10 people and wiping their homes.

You know there are nothing on PvE planets. They NEED to get out so just be smart and you will get your revenge.

Maybe we find another solution for this later.

Rex, so, if any use OP for enemy base, they must be punished. Op - its tools for defence and must be used only for defence.
And it’s not necessary to disconnect OP, I’m talking about it,
I do not complain against that faction, and special dont say a name for that fraction. I say we need protection, not revenge or complaint

Just putting this out there dunno if this is a good idea or not, could ammo be free/infiniate to claim like do:ammo:135Missles:200 or even auto miners for ammo to combat the ammo drain? could even call it an “auto ammo factory” and have it as a new feature with upgrades for people to work for, this may make up for the loss of OP and even solve the problem of ammo drain

Ahaxopet, i feel your concerns about these problems, i miss the old universe more and more, where there only was one pve planet, now it seems like the admins has gone full pve lovers and only listening to carebears demands, really sad to see what it all has turned out to be, and did the crying stop? no its still there… i won’t be much active until we get some real justice, with the ocd and all these millions tools to keep you safe, why do we need pve planets!!? there is plenty of single player space games out there if you want pve…

Oi I am a Care bear player and I’m on your side, as you pointed out there is enough tools to keep your stuff safe, I think having 1 PVE planet (that gets wiped often) would be a good thing, even I don’t like the fact everyone cramming on to PVE worlds it makes the game boring. But I do think you need to allow at least 1 PVE Planet for new starts to the server or if you have been totally wiped out so you can at least get back on your feet.

[quote=“ahaxopet”]Rex, so, if any use OP for enemy base, they must be punished. Op - its tools for defence and must be used only for defence.
And it’s not necessary to disconnect OP, I’m talking about it,
I do not complain against that faction, and special dont say a name for that fraction. I say we need protection, not revenge or complaint[/quote]

I agree ahax but there are 2 BIG problems:

  1. OP is in reality not only a defence thing it is also an offensive thing (parking a big CV above a base and logout, etc.)
  2. All that is nice and good but we CAN’T control it automatically. We would need to check it all the time ourself manually. We work over 8 hours per day and in sum up to 17 hours per day. It is already now too much.

We need more and more stuff automated. So if you have an idea how we can do such things with our tool, let me know.

Seems you missed my post windmill: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=340&start=10#p1838
Making ammo as an Auto Miner or Factory is an interesting idea. Also a Food factory. But since this game calls itself survival game we don’t want to go the Factorio way where you automate everything and just get bored someday…

That is a damn good point Thranir. Since we want to make everyone happy it is of course damn hard and always causing problems. On the weekend I teaser the 3.0 universe so I welcome you for the feedback then.

That is where it starts and where it ends my friends. Making 1 PvE Backup Planet, easy… it gets full… make another… it gets full… make another… and so on.
In physical way:
the room is finite.
The growth is infinite.

[quote]That is where it starts and where it ends my friends. Making 1 PvE Backup Planet, easy… it gets full… make another… it gets full… make another… and so on.
In physical way:
the room is finite.
The growth is infinite.[/quote]

Not quite what I mean, I wasn’t thinking in terms of a “Backup Planet” Because you got OCD for that, if this got Wiped say everday or 2 days this would make setting up on this PVE world rather pointless, even restrict people from having CV’s on this world. Could it be restricted from factions bases? restrict block count to 2000 or something, Put what ever tool you have at your disposal and rules to try and make it not an attractive place to be other than a starter world. But I suppose until something can be done with the PVP side of things probably none of this is possible or practical to do

Rex m8, I appreciate you’re very much in the “PVP everywhere” camp, but you have to understand that if you do that, you alienate a lot of your userbase. The PVP fucking sucks in this game, its not worth throwing away all the trading, empire building and that sorts of stuff away just so we can get CV’s destroyed constantly by overpowered SV’s.

I know I know Duke. It will be people teaching OCD on the one hand and making good but less PvE stuff on the other hand. Wait for it…

Lad, I swear on me mum, if you take away PVE orbits after I designed a massive space station I’m going to [size=50]be very annoyed, but do very little about it tbh, pls dun ban me m8[/size] :imp:

Duke! you can forget pve orbits :slight_smile: never gonna happen! that is like saying, no pvp at all since people will just live in their pve region and use their stuff from ocd to build and from auto miners!

You are aware Rex has confirmed they are happening, right? The poll in the voting thread clearly showed everyone wanted orbits, not planets.

Stop being butthurt, lol.

(thread in question:http://empyrion-homeworld.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=287&hilit )

Well Duke…i don’t know whats going on with rex at the moment but hes making it for the worse, when i first joined this it said it would be hardcore universe and pvp, now it looks like the entire universe is becoming pve sort of, orbits has allways been the last pvp zone near pve planets, from my own thoughts this universe has become so easy that an 4 year old could play it, you get resource packages, you get your own unraidable storage, you get your own miners, i could sit in my base and get it all without needing to go somewhere… i mean whats the point playing? this is an survival game you loot, you kill, you survive.
But i am done with it all, admins will never listen to the hardcore players, allways the crying carebear that get’s his way through.

You guys are so funny, you see a vote for pve orbits vote winning and then you assume that all orbits are therefore going to be pve ^_^. Also a solution for the endless full pve planets is to divide the pve sections into corners of the universe and then designate each of these corners to each faction type and tell those factions to only build on those pve designated to them. This theoretically should lower the bases per planet by 2 to 3 times depending on how many traders there are compared to everyone else.

You can have pvp area’s between those pve corners and then all the good resource planets between those pvp areas xD and wam! content. :smiley:

People have failed to understand what survival games means, i played countless games that is survival, Rust, ark , 7 days to die, starmade , space engineers all have with the feel in the stomach of losing it all and survive, in here the admins have made the feeling go away with all these mechanics… and people crying for evry little piece they lose, i mean people are probably damn happy im gone from the server, mission accomplished from the admins! enough is enough, back in the days pvp people was thinking one pve planet was enough, now today there is 5+ planets and parking space for ships, this server will be only be populated by pve players and the pvp aspect will be gone, there should be an balance between the two worlds, like pvp events that we had on uranus on old world, i even pushed with rex to make this universe better but he failed to listen to the pvp and hugged the carebears to make even more pve stuff.

  • they should make that pvp players get superior benefits of having only one base on pvp planets and not any buildings on pve planets, to encourge people to live outside the box, maybe lets say 100000 ammo?

Meh, its a balance you cant make everything pve or all the pvp people will leave and visa versa the only real solution is for new people to start off extremely safe and poor and then transition them to end game where its die and rebuild, if peoples bases don’t get destroyed then what happens is that they achieve all their goals and then get bored and stop playing… it needs to be challenging.

Thranir my friend I know you hate me but I still appreciate any feedback you give! :slight_smile:

I listened very good and all but all that will only take part in the HWS 3.0 universe. Don’t know if you will like it cause we will still have PvE playfields (where even you like to build sexy statues…) but taking the OCD, the locations of playfields, auto miner and much more into an account I think / hope I can title it “hard universe” again.

[quote=“Thranir”]Well Duke…i don’t know whats going on with rex at the moment but hes making it for the worse, when i first joined this it said it would be hardcore universe and pvp, now it looks like the entire universe is becoming pve sort of, orbits has allways been the last pvp zone near pve planets, from my own thoughts this universe has become so easy that an 4 year old could play it, you get resource packages, you get your own unraidable storage, you get your own miners, i could sit in my base and get it all without needing to go somewhere… i mean whats the point playing? this is an survival game you loot, you kill, you survive.
But i am done with it all, admins will never listen to the hardcore players, allways the crying carebear that get’s his way through.[/quote]

Just because you don’t like the direction is taking, does not make it “wrong” or “worse” you immature retard.

Plus, I’m fairly certain that the majority of space orbits will be PVP, and maybe just 3 PVE orbits for us to build in.

I would tell you to go play a game with PVP that requires skill, but you’d just cheat and get banned again.

[quote=“Kogami”]You guys are so funny, you see a vote for pve orbits vote winning and then you assume that all orbits are therefore going to be pve ^_^. Also a solution for the endless full pve planets is to divide the pve sections into corners of the universe and then designate each of these corners to each faction type and tell those factions to only build on those pve designated to them. This theoretically should lower the bases per planet by 2 to 3 times depending on how many traders there are compared to everyone else.

You can have pvp area’s between those pve corners and then all the good resource planets between those pvp areas xD and wam! content. :smiley:[/quote]

Also this is a great idea, have the faction bases in the very corners of the universe.

So, am the only one that thinks attaching HWS intruder to SMS/text message is a good thing?

I am just thinking solution for people who emotionally attach to OP. To them, removing OP might be bittersweet but proposing a alternative solution to solved “Offline Raiding” by getting alert system.