Oh Elfias, You are usually the one writing confusing things…
explanation:
At the moment you can spawn only level 3 blueprints right? that’s 500 devices but a lot of blocks, You can also add devices/blocks to that spawned blueprint without any dramas…so What was a level 3 blueprint might now technically be a level 4…follow me?
The new system makes it so you cannot spawn a level 3 and add loads of devices and blocks, If you spawn a level 3 10000k block and 500 device CV thats fine, where as you could add X amount of devices and X amount of blocks you can no longer do that.
If you add 1 block and 1 device so 10,001 and 501. It will likely say. “Faction X your CV is only meant to have 10,000k block and 500 Devices, please remove 1 block and 1 device or it will be removed after X more warnings!”
The change is in that before although restricted to level 3 blueprint you could adjust after spawn, now you simply cannot…its very black and white now. This is the limit, No ifs or buts, End of.
Ok so i understand it. Because when Rexx limited leve3 BP which is 500 devices im normal civilised person so i took the limit as limit for server, nothing like adding devices to already spawned BP. I dont need rules as if someone tells me huge creations lag we limited to 500 devices it means that i wont build something with more than 500 devices even if i could.
And because im the one who wants to play and have fun my largest CV exept this cube i build when i was new in game is currently 1800 blocks and about 180 devices. And its my only CV i hope, i dont need 10 to f up every orbit with some monster. Im living in PvP from start of 3.0 in this ship, it was never destroyed, and only reason why i would need larger is larget deck to land more SVs.
So no im not happy as i understand it correctly. For me this is no restriction, no change and no performance gain. No hard feelings, I know you are trying Rexx, I know you are trying to make everyone happy. So be it.
Just one little advice which come to my mind when i was reading some dramas, you realy dont need to be a friend with everyone. Everyone who dont like what you set or which rule you changed can go as i went. I see that ppl needs 10 CVs, 1 for every purpose, I see that ppl needs huge CVs and huge bases, thats not a server i want to play on so ill just wait until devs make game in which you can play with all these. Question is why i keep posting, well its because i belive that limiting size of ships can help and if that helps i could play again.
Limit it more The cube you see more or less fits into current limit. I thought we are trying to get rid of these.
“so no Thranir i realy see that not everyone is guilty.” Elfias you accused me of having an mega ship that lagged the server like hell, that ship had 78 turrets… and no hv docked on it, it was just one core cv… so not sure why you said i was building stuff that would kill the server…
I edited the post. Change 2.2 should be carefully read.
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Limit it more
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SVs and HVs coming soon. The limits I posted are the first very strictful step. We don’t want to fuck up too many people. Nothing to do with friendliness. We thought we could activate it for 3.0 but there was a bug. So that is a teaser so to speak for 4.0. Till then we learned lessons and restrict even more if needed.
The universe is in the sketch. The system which will be removed are marked with a red X. The new repositioning under the universe, beautiful painted xD
But about the new supply packages here is the teaser:
the Trader supply before was too good. It needed a nerf. That you have no fuel at all now should focus you to still trade or mine for it (you have gold now)
the Hunter supply focus on a go in mission style. He has everything on board to fullfill his job.
since Pirates Home are PvP playfields they get a good supply to live this dream.
I will announce it on friday again but since it is already implemented and some asked here is how the Repuation Point system works:
Lawless don’t have or get RP at all
Alliance getting 1RP per day and with it a passive income of 1000 credits + 1000 * RP per day. We increased it. What I am building next and will be live of friday: As soon as an Alliance member has 5 RP he is able to see the universe map like before. No “???”. So only he can see how many cores are in what playfield. Kind of a global “fa:scan” ability
Trader getting 1 RP per day IF he is warping at least one time within 24hours. This should prevent camping on one place and pushing more supply transports to others
Bounty Hunter getting 1RP and 1000 credits + 1000 * RP credits per day IF he not dies within 24 hours.
Pirate getting 1RP per day if he has NOTHING build in PvE. Well that he can’t be on PvE is nothing new.
So now the interesting part comes into play:
you are only able to use fa:supply if you have at least 1 Reputation Point!
As soon as you change a faction you have 0 RP again!
This prevents as you see the regular faction change and supply abuse. It should focus more the Role Play part.
We are now discussing if Trader are allowed to have 0 cooldown on OCD on PvP and how to prevent Trader going Yolo Mode on other factions.
So let us know what you think and hopefully you like the changes so far
Secondly, I like the supply changes however trader may benefit from some additional lower level ingots.
I like the warp requirement but its easy to get around - the supply transports thing is a misnomer, insta market kills any requirement to actually transport anything anywhere. No bonus for traders having RP? So once I have 1 RP and can use fa:supply - which past a certain point will be pointless anyway - the warp requirement doesnt matter anyway.
Is there a cap on RP? Long time player + bank bonus = infinite money.
does this mean any structure? i.e. CV or BASE or only BASE? Don’t think any pirates have bases in PvE - there’s frankly no need for a base other than vanity right now so it too is also a bit of a damp squib.
I think there needs to be some level of cooldown but traders shouldnt be as penalised - maybe a sliding scale based on RP to fix the above point?
Traders are not only there for trading. Also for helping people who are in need in the universe. IF we implement the HWS Marketplace and remove the global one from Eleon then you see why we add this.
For Pirates and Traders there is no long-time benefit for now. Like getting more credits per day per RP like the other two. But this will come later for sure. Kind of a bonus since the RP system will be more and more important.
No
Yes
The meta change is a reflection of the current meta. If we nerfed the Trader too much we adjust them over time again. I already have an idea to implement a long term RP system to them, but later more
The changes are awesome, on the old system people having a look and being like…errrm i’m a Trader i guess…Now you look at can see the clear benefits of any faction but they do all differ.
So much more balanced and the role play will now potentially be a lot more even, not just pirates and traders fighting each other.
Seriously, from a week ago raising some possible work on points to this…
2 days ago, I fly NEAR dat PvP-bases… How fc… it lags. There was near 5 BA with 5-10 turrets on each. Ofc, some guys with PC from NASA mb could shoot that down, but I didnt think that all had such PC… And ofc, we try to make game less lagy, so we give more and more turrets to Pirates. Ok. mb this will help them to make All gold planets full on BA with turrets.
The current state of the game regarding lagging is mainly because of the Patch 3.3. Before we hadn’t such problems even with bigger bases with more turrets. So fingers crossed for coming Patch.
Holy cow took a quick look its nice. Realy quick look but you know whats bad in this world? That some group will “sacrifice” someone and make him alliance so they will have a way to see not see ??? and get info where to strike.
Its sad as it would be nice to play with ppl who simply accept rules and how its meant and dont do stuff like above. Maybe something like long range yes, infinite range no, like you see only surrounding sectors.
Love Alliance/Hunters sallary, we are getting somewhere, but Im afraid Kalsius is right with some limit, just spend 20 minutes trying to come out with formula for that. Need more coffe but i think about something like leveling in games. First level is fast and than its harder and harder to reach higher level. This is too linear, after 30 days ill be payed 31k credits x 10 alliance mebers, too much. Maybe its ok if max is 15k per day, i mean compare it also to other Story Faction bonuses and what can Alliance member buy for his sallary per day.
Again most important is what player will do with that cash, if its used to help others its ok, if it will be used to build huge Alliance cube its problem.
Or I can loose RP or better not gain when im not doing Alliance job right way, i fail to protect, im killed by pirates, i loose base to bad guys.
Just quick thoughts, its realy game development slowly. Imagine system in which you can “call for Alliance help” so Alliance clearly knows where to go on mission and gets RP for success.
Elfias, the thing is some groups will always find a way to play the system. EVE was chronic with it. Pirates didn’t have any of the consequences of being the bad guys as they all had a high level ‘clean’ faction alt in safe space able to do all the things they couldn’t do with their main char.
Same will happen here, we are already seeing people as trader faction but being pirate so they can have the trader benefits but be a pirate.
It all really depends on what controls can be implemented and how far you will go to implement those controls.
That is what I planned from the beginning. Not easy to build and really going the game development road but sooner or later it will come.
For now we will see how to limit it. Never had a guy 30 days in one faction anyways (you loose all RP if you change it).
So let’s see.
About the global fa:scan… I can make it upgradable maybe. 5RP = 3 PvP systems, 10RP = 6 PvP systems, 20RP all. Don’t know. Need to be in my coding-mania style.
Maybe I should learn how to code Unity…
I think I remember something along the lines of after every 10 ocd actions you have a 15min CD or something along those lines. It goes someway to stopping Traders spawning a ship, dropping stuff out of OCD and then going ape on a base or CV, dieing and repeating ad infinitum. Its one reason I think some pirates go trader faction right now as it allows permanently fast replacement without boundaries whereas other factions have a cooldown or limit.
The cube you see more or less fits into current limit. I thought we are trying to get rid of these.
