K warp is a real thing in hws
You have some footage I can see? The only 1 CV vs 1 SV Iāve seen slaughter a CV is when it was a tiny mining vessel.
The Class 1 CV can just literally lock on a warp gate and warp out the second their shields go down, so if the CV dies itās because it wants to die.
Itās allowed to camp supergates, but it is not allowed to warp camp, and like Nuclear says, itās a thing on HWS. You can easily warp from PvE to Homeworld.
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Yep, thatās what alliances do mate. They lock down systems, because they have the tactical ability to do so. Thatās not a gameplay flaw, thatās a player advantage.
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It might or might not, but it is a fact that Class 5 CVs definitely discourage players from venturing into PvP.
It doesnāt matter what class is it, a new player will get killed by class 5 or class 1 ship equally fast.
It is a fact though, that building a working class 5 cv is much easier than class 1.
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only people who ācampā as you say are the bigger factions tryin to cut off rivals from fleeing. your faction included.
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Iām aware of all of this. How easy it is to warp in and out of PvP just means that newer players will venture INTO a PvP space. It doesnāt address the point of encouraging players to join into a PvP fight.
Or they are just camping the Supergate looking for PvP. And thatās exactly my point, larger alliances are camping the supergates. At the very least a Class 1 CV in limit in Homeworld would encourage newer players to engage with those campers.
The reason 90% of newbies donāt go into PvP, is not because of size class. Most donāt even know how that matters.
Many newbies are scared of PvP.
Thatās how it is, and thatās how itās always been, and thatās not anything we can change.
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why are you worried bout hw so bad other systems are class 7??? . bad experience?
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There are a lot of reasons why newer players are scared of PvP. Class size 5 CVs that canāt be killed are one of those reasons.
There are others as well, but you canāt honestly say that Class Size 5 CVs are not one of them.
On what basis do you make that claim? Do you know any newer players whoād do that, and if so, why arenāt we speaking with them directly now. Iād love to direct them to the helpful pvp guide we have here so they might be able to come up with a good class 5 to challenge those big bad alliances.
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Please go to the top of the thread and read. This is about discussing pros and cons of CV Class Limits. I stated the reasons why I started the thread.
Youāre wrong. I can.
I remember clearly when i was a newbie. I didnāt know size class was a thing. The reason i didnāt go to PvP back then, was because i was scared of dying.
I agree with Dark, noobs are afraid of dying.
Thatās the real issue and thatās been helped massively by community efforts.
Yes, I know new players. I know a lot of the reasons why newer players avoid engaging in PvP with the larger alliances. Class Size 5 CVs are one of them.
I donāt pretend I know all of the reasons of course, and thatās why we are discussing it.
Now that said Zack, can you please discuss the benefits of why you want to keep Class 5 CVs?
Alright let me ask the same question a little differently.
Why should we keep SVās. Letās just get rid of them?
Can we please speak with them, since they seem to have the issue?
Hereās the problem, unless we get all of the new players to come in and offer their views, itās all your word vs my word.
So letās focus back on the benefits/drawbacks.
Other than you enjoy flying a Class 5 CV for the sake of flying one. Why do you prefer Class 5 CV fights? I stated why I prefer Class 1s.
This conversation is to discuss the drawbacks/benefits of different class sizes. Can you provide me with insight as to why you want to fly Class 5 CVs?
If you want to go poll the newer players go ahead.