What happened: Entire faction in serious debt. Player(s) with issue: Taisen , Jacobie , acemike87 , underaneonhalo , Ocel-fa Server: NA Time (cb:time): last few days Playfield: ECC Structure Name(s): Write here Structure ID(s): Write here How can we help you now: My entire faction has taken the debt for all of our ships that were there, so each of us owe all the taxes for all the ships. So I owe for all the ship, then each other member also owes. I owe 1,990,840 , Jacobie owes 971,800 , Ocel-fa owes 5,811,893 , and underaneonhalo owes 2,053,466 . I cant tell if acemike87 owes anything because he hasnāt been on but I think heās okay bc his days played is low. This seems like a major error. How in the world do we owe a total of 10,827,999 for being in a zone for such a short time? How in the world are we supposed to recover from that before all of our stuff is taken away? Thatās basically going to cause us all to quit the game again. Thereās no way for us to recover from that. The debt is not high, itās extreme! That is waaaay too harsh. Whatās going to happen to us? Is this tax mechanic worth 5 peopleās game experience being completely ruined? And why arenāt we each just being charged for our own ships? Why do 4-5 different people have to pay for each ship 4-5 times? I mean Jacobie wasnāt even there and heās being charged tax for everyones ship that was there? Makes no sense.
You most likely got taxed for being there during the afternoon (9PM) restart, all taxes go out then, regardless of how long you stayed in ECC space. Iāve seen quite a few of your people on during these hours.
I donāt think you guys understand. Itās duplicating all of the charges per ship for every member. On each of my members registers itās listing all of the ships. So if I pay off the taxes on my tank for example, it should be paid off, but no. Itās charging the fee to everyone. So each of my members had a debt for 1 tank. So the tanks tax is being duplicated and multiplied by the number of members I have. So I have to pay off every ship 5 times.
Edit: if the totals are correct and being divided, I would like to give some friendly advice. Please keep in mind I support HWS and love what you guys do. A) the amount is way too high if thatās the case. 1 or 2 mil is high, averaging roughly 4 mil a day is way too much. Thatās going to handicap a new faction for an entire season over 2 days at ECC tax time. B) the grace period should be based on times visited ECC not hours played. The warning should also say āuse cb:time to check your timeā as a reminder. C) my members that have never been to ECC are upset that they have debt. Thatās not a good model. Charge it all to the faction leader and let them sort it out. Also, itās less math.
Cause you and your friends are new to HWS I refunded it as an exception.
But whatever all of the circumstances: if you donāt read what and why there are taxes, then please donāt be surprised.
You parked a whole ship gang in ECC and it doesnāt matter where you are coming from (timezone).
Especially because you parked twice there. At two days and still not have read the Tax Guide.
cb:time
is the command which tells you the server time and only that time matters for everyone. In this case 9AM server time. (can check it also in HWS Connect).
Thank you RexXxuS. I appreciate that. Iāve told everyone not to mess up again. No disrespect. Please consider some of the changes I suggested to help reduce the amount of times this issue comes up for new HWS players. Adding (cb:time) to the pop-up warning as a reminder will hopefully eliminate any excuses and also eliminate the need to have to continually address this issue. I learned a lot of the commands and still didnāt realize I could type cb:time. You guys have been here a long time but us new people take a while to tackle the learning curve. I love what youāre doing. Keep it up! Iāll continue to make donations to help your cause. Thank you, sir.
