Faction tax / Warnings on structures needs looking at quickly!

[Wiseman738]

Hey Firebeard, cheers for the reply.

@Firebeard

With all due respect, The faction I run has over 30 active members on its own, as do 2 other of our allies and a 3rd isn’t far behind.
It’s not quite the same.
Particularly with it being several seasons ago, the games radically changed since then.

Damn that sounds insane, but I don’t play anymore so it wouldn’t surprise me if alliances had completely ballooned similar to an East-West arms race.

@Firebeard

We focus on pve and getting new players up to speed on how to play the game.
This system just wiped something like 100 million credits off the map in 2 days, as a flat rate penitly across the board, including players new to the server, effectively putting them into debt, for reasons beyond their understanding. In a wording that implies its the factions fault.

Some have stopped playing.

We had a couple of taxes like this when people forgot to bring their ships back from ECC. I think at one point everyone in our alliance got taxed 22mil at the time (this was a few seasons ago, before the age of hyperinflation. So it would probably equal out to about 80-100mil). I know your pain my good Sir. But I stand by my point that it’s part and parcel of being in such a big alliance to communicate with one another about this. Placing too many bases on a playfield that is known for its strict base limits is really important. Nonetheless it’s a shame that new players just up and left, as i’ve made clear I think having new PVP players is really important.

But this is perhaps also another issue of having a PVE/PVP faction in an alliance with a mix of vets and new players. That’s a LOT for a new player to learn very fast.

@Firebeard

I’m pleased that the wording will be changed and that some effort is being made to at least indicate to people who to go pester for the refund when it goes wrong.

Yup, that’s what we did. Went after the numpty who left their battlecruiser in ECC.

@Firebeard

Which seems to go totally against the federation mission statement we get at the start of playing on hws.
Federation players should have some damping to this as they’re encouraged to make big factions.

This is a really cool idea. Anything that extends roleplay is a massive plus in my opinion…speaking of (I’m shamelessly putting this here, especially as you said you manage a lot of people so they can check it out too), have you seen my Skill tree ideas? [I’m always looking for feedback!]

Skill Tree thread link

HWS SKILL TREE SUGGESTION THREAD-Wiseman's Baby!

@Firebeard

There’s a lot of positive infrastructure missing to support big groups and a lot of negative infrastructure to punish them.

I think that’s more to prevent people getting pwned by big alliances. Naturally places like GG have always been made for INTENSE PVP action by the big factions. But I’m hoping in the long run we can get a couple of PVP ‘lite’ planets with tiny alliance limits so that smaller PVP factions can eek it out there and fight eachothr without getting super zerged.

But maybe for alliance-based features like an alliance bank or alliance OCD would be quite cool. They could cost astronomical amounts and not even be necessarily very powerful. An alliance OCD for instance could have only a couple of slots but it would be incredibly powerful in terms of moving resources. Especially with the weight system.

Best regards Firebeard!
Wise.