Got ammo drained?

Always record in HWS. ALWAYS. Even if you arent doing things of consequence, you can delete the recording later. But your only defense against claims of exploiting/cheating, etc is a video of you NOT doing it. You dont need to upload them to youtube, just keep them on an external storage in case you need one specifically.

Just an idea.
But to be fair to the poster here, you say you rearmed and went back in, which is consistent with the first intruder log. Not so much this part right here:

Thats 33 deaths in 1 hour and 13 minutes, with many of them one after another about a minute apart. That is the text book example that we see for someone who just respawns and runs at their pack. No matter how prepared you are, 1 minute is not enough time to rearm, and get back to your death location and fight in a meaningful way from spawning on your med bay. You may not intend it as ammo draining, but it fits the profile nonetheless.

Maybe bring a small sv and shoot at turrets, instead of going on foot next time?

But this, this is just silly. Destroying an attackers materials is not griefing. Its common practice in warfare.

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First of all, do the logs show when you are outside the base area and shooting turrets?

Second, where is your guarantee that he didn’t post a selected part of the logs?

Third, I placed a base litterally next to his base, so I could respawn quickly and go. I don’t need to re-arm with a lot. I just need basics to attack his turret.

Here are the complete logs from the GRG Raid.

9 23:11 WHM DaddyStu GRG 29 Uranus Renegade Cop
9 15:30 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 15:29 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 15:27 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 15:26 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 15:25 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 15:23 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 15:22 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 15:20 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 15:19 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 15:18 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 15:16 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 15:15 ZtyX COP 208 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:56 ZtyX COP 207 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:54 ZtyX COP 207 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:53 ZtyX COP 207 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:52 ZtyX COP 207 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:50 ZtyX COP 206 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:49 ZtyX COP 205 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:47 ZtyX COP 204 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:46 ZtyX COP 203 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:45 ZtyX COP 202 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:43 ZtyX COP 202 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:42 ZtyX COP 200 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:41 ZtyX COP 199 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:39 ZtyX COP 198 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:38 ZtyX COP 198 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:36 ZtyX COP 197 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:35 ZtyX COP 196 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:33 ZtyX COP 195 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:32 ZtyX COP 194 Uranus Uranus Base
9 14:31 ZtyX COP 194 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:45 ZtyX COP 191 Uranus Stus HoverTank
9 13:43 ZtyX COP 187 Uranus Stus HoverTank
9 13:39 ZtyX COP 178 Uranus Stus HoverTank
9 13:38 ZtyX COP 175 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:36 ZtyX COP 175 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:35 ZtyX COP 174 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:34 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:32 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:31 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:29 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:28 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:27 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:25 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:24 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:21 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:17 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:10 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus RunAbout
9 13:09 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus RunAbout
9 12:51 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Hover Vessel (HV)
9 11:53 ZtyX COP 169 Uranus OGA JACK (GR)

As I said, I have video of what happened and I didn’t do anything wrong.

You got me wrong Ztyx. I am not complaining - that base is just a minor outpost and my losses were inconsequential. Thats not the point - the way you did it - particularly that segment quoted above by McPouty is certainly ammo draining. The logs do not lie. This seems to be your modus operandi as the original poster shows.

As for destroying your SV after restart - that was just a tiny bit of fun. Your mate then messaged me to say you were stranded and I offered to help you out.

Lastly - the log i posted above was completely unedited. Thats why other visitors/passersby are clearly included.

No hate needed in reply :slight_smile: - just posting up facts here.

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No, that is not ammo draining and I have a video to prove that I used a nearby makeshift base.
The logs don’t lie, but they also don’t tell the full story, which is why the rule clearly states that you need to provide sufficient evidence if you want to get someone punished for exploiting
(read section 3.1: HWS Rules - 1. Bugs & Exploits).

You have nothing except a text log of me dying in your base.
And you need to consider the rule first. The rule is named “ammo draining” for a reason. It’s a rule set in place to stop people from draining ammo and breaking in to bases easily because the turrets run out of ammo.

Somewhere along the line, people like you stopped caring about what the rule is actually for and began to use it as a pretext to get revenge out of game.

This has all that has been necessary in the past in other instances.

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The list goes on, if you care to continue

https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/search?q=ammo%20drain

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9 13:34 ZtyX COP 171 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:35 ZtyX COP 174 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:36 ZtyX COP 175 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:38 ZtyX COP 175 Uranus Uranus Base
9 13:39 ZtyX COP 178 Uranus Stus HoverTank
9 13:43 ZtyX COP 187 Uranus Stus HoverTank
9 13:45 ZtyX COP 191 Uranus Stus HoverTank

Thats 20 deaths in 11 minutes.

Dying roughly every 30 secs. Nothing you’ve said above explains that. Note that my only underground turret was a sole sentry gun.

Its impressive that you get back to get killed so quickly - you must be sprinting :slight_smile:

A video of this would be a good watch.

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he built a base really close by to circumvent the “do not ‘spawn at current location’” stiuplation – hence the repeated reference to rules. just spawned in his own base, which happened to be “at the current location”

Clever. ish.

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