This has been an ongoing debate for a long time now. We have seen it considered before, but never seen a direct conclusion reached. I would have to agree that it is not an ammo draining tactic. Under a technicality, I was ammo draining you yesterday. I fought 3 of your CV’s with my SV, Dok you where there. You guys spawn killed me more than 10 times. I re spawned at random intervals over a minute after I was spawn killed last, usually over two or three minutes. 15 minutes after I was first killed, I was still being spawn killed by all three if your CV’s. I eventually escaped because the game spawned me far enough away from your CVs for me to cb:gohome. If that is considered ammo draining, then shields should be considered ammo draining as well. Dok, I have personally seen you and many other players wait until their shields where down to 12 percent and then leave to go hide behind a base, HV, or CV. In the orbital fight you tried to hide inside the cluster of bases to let your shields recharge, or on the planet. I have not seen a single player in PvP not even attempt to let their shields recharge during the fight. Oz being the only exception. Even I try to keep my shields up the whole fight, it makes sense. If players consider it unfair to play the game as it was intended, then why are they even plaing the game. It’s just a game, out of ammo? make more. Low on Pentaxid? Go mine more. That is how the game was designed. If it was all shooting people would get bored, there has to be a grind. Don’t want to use ammo or pentaxid? Don’t attack POI’s or enter PvP. However, this brings us all the way back around to micro svs. I have been told by counsel members you guys use micro svs in combat, and I have a screenshot of one of your members flying a micro sv. Does that make you guilty of ammo draining? No, of course not. you aren’t that members. However, does it mean that member of your faction is an ammo drainer? They are flying a ship built only to keep it’s shields up so that other players can shoot at it, but not hit it. In our fight on HomeWorld, everyone from your faction backed off at some point or another to let their shields recharge. Including you, but so did everyone from my side of the fight. (except Oz) Does that mean you used the whole fight to ammo drain us? During the fight, your base kept recharging its shields. I know why, it was trying to ammo drain us. I just don’t see how shields could possibly be considered ammo draining, or if they are to be considered ammo draining, how could anyone stop it? Record it and waste peoples time by reporting everyone who attacks them as “ammo draining” too many people would get away with it. Below I posted a screenshot from Taelyn, an Eleon developer. Taeyln helped develop and improve many aspect of Empyrion Galactic Survival, including shields.