you win i win cinder thing
Sales of enemy ships should not be allowed.
However, disagree with felix â a captured enemy ship can be used. Always been that way. Same as normal spoils of war in any conflict.
It is the utmost compliment to the original builder/designer.
As a builder, I rarely find anyone elseâs ship design acceptable. Wont buy a garage ship for same reason.
However, you will see I and many others flying versions of Rino sv captured earlier in the season.
Good ship â my compliments to the original designer/builder. I have only made a couple revisions to it to address some shortcomings. Very good ship.
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yes i do i have shut down the sale
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I know it can be used and it is allowed. But i disagree on using it. I would rather suggest if you capture it, you can store it as trophy and ofc admire buildier.
The resason why i say this is because i have apsolutelly all PvP SV and HV from all factions, old, new and prototypes⌠Even from NA server. Should i use them or should i use vessels from faction im in or i build/design?
just saying it is all off sale
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sorry paxxo i did not understand on globle chat
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You have bps â so long as you obtained them legitimately, you should be free to use any and all of them.
Your choice.
However, if you obtained them by means other than trophyâs won in battle, or won by others in your alliance in battle ---- then no, you should not use.
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Ofcourse, all is legit. But i will not use it. I have them for my self as trophys.
And also to see how others build and maybe take some as advice for future build.
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Yes â all good use.
Intelligence gathering of enemy designs.
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I started using enemies ships because all my enemies were using the Rhino. Is actually fun killing them with their own ships 
I respect work of players like @Tive because actually he made a good ship âthe Thoreonâ and keep improving it. But i would not sell it on market, never. I am 100% sure if i start to sell his ship he will be demotivated and will stop producing new ones
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Its becoming weird placeâŚ
Its full of trash talk, rumors, dramas, lies, accusations, a lot of bullshit. PvP community might want to try to improve that a bit.
When it comes to selling some ships, or what kind of bothering is this again, it is action of individuals so if there is some problem communicate about it with those individuals.
In case that somebody wants to spend his hard earned credits on any version of VWing donât bother, Ill gladly give it away for free, same for HVs, just poke me.
@Opiceni_Macor using captured ships is ok, I still see VWings and Gladiators around no matter how they are called now. Its just necessary to keep it all HWS only by the rules. I think its good when ppl adapts, rebuilds captured ships to fit their needs. Actually if its up to me I donât even care if BPs go out of HWS. Steeling bp (switching original creator for someones name) takes about 10s so why would I care. At the end Empyrion mechanics are very simple so theres hardly something original coming.
I know its ok and allowed to use captured ship. I only expressed my opinion of it.
By saying that i dont plan on using captured ships. I rebuild and hold it for me.
Admiring builds and taking advices for my future buildsâŚ
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I see. To be honest I would like see more ppl with yours attitude around. 
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A note regarding Chief.
Chief I believe is young, learning and very enthusiastic about the game. Yes, he has also asked me for blueprints before I knew anything other than his game name. Yes, appeared very suspicious for doing so.
However, after having some time in voice chat with him over past couple weeks ---- I believe his doing so is only due to a lack of understanding that it is not good form asking for bpâs. At least not until others get to know and trust him very well.
My guess â through this incident and other feedback, he is developing an understanding around designerâs/builderâs close protection of their work.
I donât want to see Chiefâs enthusiasm diminished by this. Just accept it as part of the learning experience.
Chief â counting on you.
(FYI â he has posted in alliance discord âto be respectfulâ and âkeep swearing to a minimumâ. That should remove all suspicion of him. Or he is a really, really good spy)
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About Chef Enginer.
I do not think he is a spy, but as you say lack of understanding. He is relatively new to the game and young.
I did talked to him and tried to help him out before he joined GMC.
I hope he learned from this something new. Also i hope nobody will take this mistake as something serious. Chef is young.
I really donât care if anyone sells other peoples or my own ships in the market. To me this is one of the biggest forms of flattery.
I think people need to chill and stop becoming too excessively attached materialists.
How i see it is that if you donât want anyone to know about it donât share it. And if you do share it keep this in the back of your head, that if you share it with someone else so they can use it, they can also spread it and share it with others. So if its a faction mate, yes you can ask that he doesnât share it with others but theres still a risk that he will share it. So keep it in the back of your head that its not a 100% safe thing now, and once you share it, its out.
Anyways, someones bound to be skilled enough to build an even better ship then you just from looking at the outside of your ship. So move on and enjoy the game. peace
Just for your information The cv Red call the RED arrow in not their design its an Op4 design from 6.0 NA that somehow RED got hold of despite the fact we never lost one in combat.
I know it is OP4 design and that it is being used by RED in EU server. Even thou it is remade entirelly only looks stayed the same.
Players on EU server when see it, do ask as âRED arrowâ because they dont know where it originally comes from.
So i also say RED arrow, easier for EU players to recognise it.
Yup selling of other ships is illegal.
@Paxxo1985 I understand your panic but you could have handled this a thousand times betterâŚnext time simply speak to Chief and if you canât sort something out then speak to Rexxus.
No need to create an enormous thread about it.
Remember; Chief doesnât speak for GMC. Only really Zappe (or to a lesser extent) myself can speak for the faction. So any âthey dont care bla blaâŚâ should be considered _trash talk_and not actual policy __
All that needs to be said has been said. @Chief-Recktless Please consult discord chat before ever messing with other peoples BPS so you are fully aware of the rules.
Best regards all,
Wise.
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My panic? I am bringing here an important argument.
I asked your faction BEFORE opening this thread to remove and they did not remove
I asked ReXXXus BEFORE opening this thread and he said that was legal.
I am here to discuss and know what people thinks.
Seems that 90% of people want it to be illegal.
So what we do?
This is the best way to handle the problem
Selling an enemy blueprint in a public place as the EGS should be equiparated at posting on workshop. ANYONE can buy it and post it after there.
I dont care if my enemies have the Rhino and actually uses it and share it between their friends and friends of the friends of the cousin. But i dont want to see it sold by someone else at EGS. Seeing that ship is used by 50% of my enemies just make me feel good because i actually prepared/modified a really good ship for this season. And make me feel better when i take them down with the same ship.