Using cb:destroy or egs:recycle during battle

See I’m the Opposite train of thought. I think CB:destroy should have a time out and the recycle not. One you have to earn / pay for. The other you do not.

ROLMFAO !!!

What other purpose would there be to keep flashing both flares and spotlights in PvP if not
to cause even more lag on an already stressed playfield. You used an underhanded tactic and
we responded in kind.

Giving a cb:destroy command is always going to be a last resort in a battle.

The facts are we in op4 still had plenty of fight in us, we had fresh players trying to log in, 2 players around the base replacing turrets, enough ammo to last for a week, fresh sv’s in orbit and had just scouted the 2 opposition supply bases near the North hemisphere and where ready to counter attack and remove the assets.
The problem was when you get to the stage where all of our players get kicked and can’t get in due to the server overloading or because as our members get kicked the server replacers the player with the next in line we get to the stage where we had no players in game for a long period of time.

As a military man you look at all your options on the battle field:- stand and fight, pull back to another base/defence point, call for support , remove assets to preserve bp’s

It is a tactical option but it is still a last resort as we all would have rather carried on with the fight.
Given the same scenario the call would still be the same “deny the enemy access to your designs”

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Thanks for sharing some thought-out points of view, I was beginning to lose faith it would happen XD

@Upgrade I LOVE the idea of it being a self-destruct! I will definitely be imagining explosions next time I use it :joy:

These commands are features that have been added to the base game. I definitely understand that if you’re being attacked who wouldn’t want to self-destruct rather than give your designs and loot to the enemy. My problem with it is that it tips the balance even further in the direction of offline-raiding. As the scales already tip so far that way I think it’s silly to make it even less appealing to online-raid. These commands take seconds to type in. You could even save a macro and make it near-instant. When it comes to base-raiding in particular I struggle to imagine a situation where the attackers can take out the core and place their own without giving the defenders ample time to realise the fight isn’t going their way and delete the structure.

We build bases partly for the fun it will be to defend them. Sadly there’s already so little incentive to online-raid someone… I think the defenders being able to delete the base as soon as they realise they’re going to lose it really puts the final nail in the coffin.

You build bases in PvE then raid PvP areas.
You use underhanded tactics that is indisputable as the posted video clearly shows.
As a result any views you have regarding honorable PvP is irrelevant.

We have one base on Athos and M31P for processing materials collected from the autominers there. Our other 6 bases and 95% of our structures are in PVP. It’s been like that since I joined the faction on day 1 of this season.

I tried to CSW to Sanctuary to get the registry but I’m not even in the faction there. I think we have a base for our recruits there but that’s about it. Going to NA to wipe your base was the first time most of our members had used CSW.

Ok so that’s another one of your false claims disproved. And apparently Rex disputing the video isn’t enough for you so we’re running an event to bust that myth too. Please, continue to educate me on how an honourable man handles defeat :roll_eyes:

If you want to continue your smear campaign please at least make a thread for it or something.

We are around. :slight_smile:

Dunno why thats applicable, but it made me laugh, so why not.

In terms of the original poster here though, I have been trying to find a place where it is written in forum, but I was under the impression that the cb:destroy command was meant to be only for faction owners, as a last resort in order to destroy horrible bugged out ships, and that misusing it would be frowned upon. Might have misinterpreted though, or the intended purpose shifted over time. Hard to tell without concrete quotes.

Edit2:
HA! found it, finally. Dont know why I didnt find it sooner, my bad.

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Thanks!

I knew CB:destroy was not meant as a remove the loot hide our BP burn the battlefield command.

That being said. EGS I can handle due to cost and requirements however the max level should be a little higher but CB:destroy should be disabled or have a once a day use for faction owner or some sort of timer on it.

@Jascha can you fix this?

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Yup, or just enforce misuse penalties
But ya, if its a bugged ship situation, I cant think of many instances of needing it more than once per day

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I like the idea of a timer for these and some other commands, so I would love it if that was possible… that way you get the best of all worlds: people can still use the command legitimately as many times as they want or need if they wait an hour or whatever (anything sooner than that they can multitool), but with a long enough countdown it’s pretty hard / impossible to abuse.

Might not be possible (or liked by everyone else) though :[

Before enforcement of misuse penalties comes into play one would hope that such misuse would be clearly defined. It seems much is being assumed in this area as to what was and was not intended. The only clear prohibition I read in the original announcement is “Only your structures”.

Fenix if you continue to sweep floor with Colin and Matt so hard it will become dirty xD

Sweep the floor with Colin and Matt? Are we 12 years old. I stopped replying because I’m trying to be less toxic @RexXxuS close the topic or allow this to go on… ? I mean I tell somebody to stop crying and its “toxic” so please intervene with this toxisisity thank you.

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This is what I reference as the original intent. Not as a failsafe self destruct for pvp purposes.

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You’re the one with all the toxicity. Constantly having to blame people because of your insecurities.

The fact is we were pleased our plan worked. We weren’t all like ‘WOOO WE OWNED COLIN in chat.’

You have to come up with even more ridiculous excuses every time. It’s getting hilarious.

You be like:

You’re the source of the toxicity. And you ask Rexxus who is a busy guy to close down a thread that you and your zombie-like followers have made toxic after Fenix starts setting you and your mates straight.

If you have nothing nice or intelligent to say; then say nothing at all.

Wisdom from a Wiseman!

Here we go Wiseman… cropped as per your request :wink:

When even Wiseman is fuming you know you did bad.

Anyways if we wanna talk more about it let’s make a thread? Maybe Colin or Matt could start one with an apology… :wink:

There we go, thanks Fenix. That was the ‘evidence’ that Colin was on about i’m guessing?

Cheers again!
Wise.

(Vid was cropped as some bits were too violent/spoilery.)

You boys are truly pathetic, I have nothing more to say to you. Read this post, it’s 90% you guys all pounding the reply button. Stop responding now thank you.

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Again the drift to the void in this topic…

Regarding the initial question:
for now we didn’t see any exploit and a lot liking the current system.

With the activation time there are also some problems connected. Same for EGS Stealth. So we would like to leave it as it is for now.

Like someone said: in real life there is also a self destruction timer available. So why not.

Try to focus on the initial question guys next time.

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