If this is actually allowed, my apologies to ŠŠµŃŠŗŃŠ»ŠµŃ & RexXxuS for wasting timeā¦ I just canāt understand how it would be allowed to attack Class 1 restricted playfield with Class 4 CV like this.
What happened:
=> During our fun battle with RED/SWP/U-P in Golden Globe, SWP ŠŠµŃŠŗŃŠ»ŠµŃ attempts to sponge/shield with oversize (class 4 or 5) CV in GG.
We managed to shoot him down, take the BP (as a proof) & I recorded this. Sorry for the fairly bad quality in the video, the name can be seen clearly at roughly 1 minute & also from the pictures.
Player(s) with issue:
=> Fallen Angel, BeAsT, Sieg
Server:
=> EU
Time (cb:time):
=> Roughly 01:30
Playfield:
=> Golden Globe
Structure Name(s):
=> Ń ŠµŠ¾ŠæŃ 7Š²
Structure ID(s):
=> 23135515
How can we help you now:
=> Decide for yourself if itās punishment-worthy.
As @TheState suggested this would be allowedā¦ Canāt understand why it would be allowed but OK.
If itās disallowed only if server takes itā¦ would it have been punished if instead of recycling it we would have let it stay SWP until server takes itā¦? We shot him out of the cockpit so simply defending the SWP CV for a while would have resulted in server taking it --> punishableā¦?
Iād like to add, all present RED members immediately backed off when SWP brought the CV. They didnāt take any part in this.
No, we shot it down before it was taken.
But itās class 4 or 5 CV used to attack base in class 1 restricted playfield.
Surely thatās against the rules?
If not punishable, everyone will just go around soaking all ammos with massive CVs & leave before HWS takes it (2 warnings) --> 10m+ of ammo soaking / shieldingā¦ The class limit is there for a reason, right?
Warnings are not meant to be exploited like this. They exist to give people time to leave / fix situation. Itās clear from the video that his attempt was not to leave, but to attack base with it.
Feel free to check the rules but no, it is not against them. People have tried doing this before on NA but it is not effective and thus not widely used.
If it is taken by HWS, thatās against the rules. The time limit is so low that this tactic is pretty risky
A quick search would show you a few times that Rexxxus commented on this. The most recent I could find:
The idea beside of sponging with a Class 5 ship (which is legit because Jascha canāt code his tool in a better way to kick such ships
This was the ruling on a police report on Feb 1 of this year.
In regards to previous situations yes, if the intent was for the server to claim it then yes, that would be punishable. The punishment might be automated at this point with the āstructure limit exploitā mechanic, but thatās beyond what I know. Just that it is illegal to do.
as @TheState said already. Itās a limitation by the game API / our tool.
Feel free to discuss the details with @Jascha!
Even though I reduced the timer a lot this season, such gameplay can happen, yes.
The only fix gamewise would be to disallow CVs completely on PvP planets. But then we have the old HV canāt dock to a SV problem.
Feel free to discuss the details with Eleon.
Gameplay wise you invest a lot of resources to build a big ship so itās a trade off in war.
Our limits should be seen as a permanent solution to limit playfields for now.
If anyone tries to frequently break the limits to make it āpermanentā our automated system should punish them automatically.
If you hadnāt disassembled it very quickly, HWS took and removed the ship in the game before you, Although the video shows that you have disassembled the ship disappeared very quicklyā¦ The shipās gone, you take it apart, we are lost resources. All the action was within the rules, weāve lost the ship.
Its a fake ticket Its you broke the rules of cheating limits, when put your ship in public, or knocked out the core to put the second CV ship.
For you, it seems to be the norm to invent violations of others to hide their crimes regarding the rules of the game
And tomorrow youāll create the ticket that weāre using your method of attack against you ?
We had class 1 cv not class 5 like u so do not compare us to you. We werent doing anything wrong, this tactic has been in use for ages. But now after i see this oversize crap is allowed, i will build class 2 or 3 cv and rush your base to reduce its size to class 1 in time. It is allowed, and we will see how fun it is for u. I dont wanna see any more crying about oversize. U started with this, it is allowed as we can see, so lets have fun.
