HWS pre 7th July update!

Ok question out of the blue: If the OCD from NA or EU is not accessible on donor server, What is to keep us from having an OCD there as well? That would allow us to still have the convenience on planet of pulling out what we need when we need it, and can just load it up manually by csw-ing in a freighter of supplies pulled from ocd in NA or EU, and then put them in the donor OCD.

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I dont realy care about the donator planets.

We can live without them and as for our faction i can say that the hole faction will park in space and not use CSW.
I have tryed CSW anbd just have to login again takes it away from me.
But we are willing to go out in space instead. So alot of people will be happy about that.

But heres is my concern.

Lets take TCH for exampel.

1: We will have 30 members in season 7.
2 Each player has atleast 2 cv´s plus 2 sv´s (1 combat and 1 standard)
3: Each player have an HV and a base.

In total thats 6 cores / player. Not that much when you think about it.

I see problems here. I think Donator planets was good to get some factions out of playfields.

But this is up to Admins to think about.

I hope it all goes well…

Just a reminder. The last days the server has been running realy fine…

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If i read correctly, achilles is firmly against an ocd on the sanctuary server.

Kinda skipped to the end.

Will OCD work in CSW zones? Because if so this doesn’t sound all that inconvenient.

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With all this I concur. If it becomes too inconvenient, or problamatic - then planet donations may go down.

Main concern I have is parking in space at this time due to tendancy of ships to self-destruct.

A large chunk of server donations would appear to come from planet donations (although i dont know this to be a fact). So, I would think they would not want to do anything to hinder this donation stream.

For this reason, the attitude expressed by achilles in his post particularly puzzles and concerns me. I get there’s reasons to be frustrated, and cant make everyone happy, but still.

May be time to step back and reconsider things.

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It does. Pointed that out early on in the thread. Only real issue is that you have to leave your planet, warp, then come back. Oh and that your devices get set back to default, and signals get lost.

Omg i think the donator package was the worse donation created for the server when i see all the whine :frowning:

Some ppl are still complaining about features that don’t even exist in others servers or in the base game like the OCD / AM / donator planets.

I concur Achilles, everyone should play on the same Universe which was created by the HWS team after so much hard work !! not half of the ppl leaving in their peacefull donator thing, taking half of the server ressources.

Come on, it’s common sense here and HWS team can check the actual playfields, some doantors are already nearly full and some origin planets empty !! think it’s normal ? I don’t think this is how our team think of the universe when they created it.

Everyone should be on the same boat, donator or not.

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What is your suggestion to replace or better yet, increase donations to ensure donations sufficient to keep the servers running for all comers?

Wait, what?

I already suggested that everyone should pay his slot with like a month or season fee subscription.

They can also create an account to get access to the special features on this server like OCD / AM etc… only by paying some kind of premium account, while others can access the server base game but without all those features.

The idea is that donations should not impact servers ressources.

Maybe they can create some sort of new donations packages with various bonus when you buy from NPC you get reductions, EGS services etc…

Maybe Rex can create some kind of character Level in HWS connect, like you earn exp when you actually play on the server and it gives you some bonuses, and you can speed up the process with a donation package but nothing too much to keep the balance.

The new station topic can be cool if limited to avoid the same pb as donators planets.

But in the end, i think anyone who actually donate for a planet, was willing to donate anyway to help HWS team and not really for the planet itself.

After all, the basic definition of a donation doesn’t imply something in return :smiley:

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Still hoping you have a recommendation on encouraging donations.

So, donations should not be used to provide server resources to expand servers, upgrade or keep them running. got it.

While a sub based approach is an option, it will change who can play the game. There we will have to agree to disagree because i know some who probably could no longer play. I dont want to see it come to that if possible.

The use of the word donation is used on purpose to avoid legal issues, lets not play coy.

Planet Donations are meant to give the most reward for the money invested, which is what the description even says.
It needs to be fun, it needs to be rewarding, it needs to say thank you from the HWS team to the player that purchases it (although sometimes a group of people yes, but it still have one-purchaser when it comes to buying it).

But perhaps a planet is just too much, its obvious its too much strain on the hardware itself, I dont’ really think the resources they provide are anything substantial, not to an end game player, the best benefit is the ability to dock, repair, and build in a PvE environment.

Perhaps that entire donation tier needs to be adjusted.

Very true. What it also does is make it more enjoyable to log on server for a couple hours of quiet play after a long days work when the last thing desired is pvp time.

If everytime i log its to run risk of being ambushed or have to look at a crowded planet filled with neighbors who even try to grief on pve - I would log in a lot less.

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Ok so you voluntary misread my post, got it.

Sorry don’t have time to play your game.

No, not missread nor a game. You misread mine and the qualification placed on a suggestion was keeping the servers running to all comers. Also, tryng to help you to rethink some of your premises.

Your premises and justifications are largely based on your assumptions about what others think. Which, have been mostly incorrect in my and some others case.

For example, your premise that anyone who donated for a planet would have done so anyway to help the server - is patently incorrect.

Use of the phrase “common sense” is another way of you saying, if you dont think like me, then you’re wrong. Suggest you stop using it.

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Hint, he was being sarcastic in hopes to make people complaining realize this…

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This guy gets it :+1:

I think you are missing the point of having your own capital ship land in an unknown planet, with deadly storms and aliens that want to kill you, luckily you have your capital ship with all those juice stuff and an own eco system inside of it to withstand the apocalypse, and the feeling that people who fly past you will see an epic cv that stretches across the desert than an 10x10 cube?

Well CV size is absolutly limited by game itself. No space for discussing it. I understand you want huge but for that you have to ask Eleon. Not my fault. I know you bought this game to build whatever you want but sadly you misunderstood, Empyrion is everything but not a game where you can build whaever you want…i hope you will notice that someday Thran. Its always same story, i dont understand why you dont see it, you cant have CV with two HV with 80 miniguns etc…not going into it again.

What im saying is that i would like to have at least CV class 1 to land on any planet, which is better than no CV at all, so basicly i support what you say, only in smaller scale, dont understand from where opposition came?!

Thran, you looking for different game or for this game working, but what you want and current state of game wont work together.

Nah man the servers should just run on sunshine, rainbows, and good vibes!

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