What happened:
=> ABN Chaotic Stole a JVI ship from Orbit, took it to a pvp playfield, destroyed the core and replaced it somehow and then flew off with it, likely via public seat or device.
Player(s) with issue:
=> Firebeard
Server:
=> HWS NA
Time (cb:time):
=> 6am
Playfield:
=> ecc sector
Structure Name(s):
=> keter transport
Structure ID(s):
=> 5660682
How can we help you now:
=> This is against the rules and the spirit of pve, just like stealing other players back packs in pve. player should be punished in a meaningful way due to clear intent and lack of remorse in the chat.
Someone must have left their keys on the ignition. Public cockpit is not good for things you want to keep. Codes are the best way to keep this from happening. Not sure if punishment is needed though. Scorpions sting because itās their nature
Youāve got to be kidding me bob, stop defending the undefendable. If this is a legit steal from PVE, there should be a temp ban. This is the same stuff ICE on EU did, it wasnāt acceptable there and it shouldnāt be acceptable on NA.
Public cockpit or not, these are veteran players. They know the rules. āScorpions sting because itās their natureā isnāt a valid excuse at all.
not defending the action or the player. the cockpit was left public. making a ticket demanding a punishment for ones own mistakes is a waste of the admins time.
This has been ruled legal in the past; no rules were broken. There is no point in duplicate reports. DO NOT leave cockpits, cargo boxes, etc public,ā¦ veteran players should know this. The vehicle was stolen in PVP. See below for the Forum Post where Rex ruled it legal.
" You are NOT allowed to steal backpacks or structures from players on PvE Starter Playfields (planets and orbits) . This rule only applies to PvE Starter Playfields, not PvP Starter Playfields ."
Not something I myself would do. I am not disagreeing it is a dick move, but it is not against the rules. Chalk it up as a lesson learned rather than start a heated argument that will only hurt us all.
Pve is player vs environment.
PvP is player vs player.
Any player interference in pve is greifing.
And should be punished.
Doesnāt matter if thatās parking on top of someoneās ship blocking them in, stealing backpacks or otherwise interfering, itās all greifing in pve.
Pve does not mean āpvp with the gloves onā
You canāt have āa legimit grabā in pve.
Any āgrabā is a pvp move in a pve only zone.
still stands at this point. game style preferences are not on trial. pirates are roleplaying their origin. this is well within the scope of that. not a preferred way to play to some. earthly criminal laws should not be viewed the same in a video game. there are more pressing issues that admins could be working on. please try to see this is a universe with several trials and tribulations. everything could be lost at any time. no need for malice. just precautions and recovery tactics.
I used to get upset at those damn ghosts when they ganked my Mrs Pac-Man back in the day. one day i realized they are just programmed that way. i found fighting the programming is impossible and discovered ways to avoid and recover. this is not much different.
My apologies for not being able to respond for the last few hours, had to catch a few hours of sleep.
My question though, Firebeard, is are you trying to get a new rule implemented or an old rule to be changed?
Because when I read the rules, as I have probably 100 times by now, I see the backpack rule. I see it only applies to PvE Starters, and if you lose your sht in the rest of the galaxy, itās a learning experience. Youāve got likely just as many hours in the server as I do, you should know not to leave cockpits set to public.
In my eyes, grabbing your ship in ECC last night was a legit grab. You had the cockpits (all of them) set to public. If the rule gets changed now, so be it. But donāt try to get me banned (I know, everybody wants ālil olā me gone) on some trumped up attempt to paint me badly.
End of the day this is just wasting RexXxuS/Jaschaās time, theyāve got far more important things to focus on and deal with. A large faction like JVI can shrug off the loss of one 10k SV, Iām sure of it.
interesting information. why would someone leave a ship with multiple cockpits set as public? that just seem like a very dangerous thing to do unless its purpose was to be a lure.
Man I lost a fortune in xeno at ecc for the same thing being a public box in a garage shipā¦ was ruled a fault of my ownā¦ I took the L from rexxx n went on my grind to replenishā¦
Probably best if we all wait for Rexxus on this one. Letās all keep our cool 'till he can deliver judgement.
" Next thing: if there is a report where a player is concerned about something, do not bomb this Topic up to 90 posts please. It is causing just even more time investment to read all of that . Some of it isnāt even helpfulā¦" Quote from Rexxus in the following thread: Abuse of PvP game mechanics. Therefore if we could all avoid commenting until Rex makes his judgement thatād be great.
Chaotic and Firebeard have both been productive so far, the former in posting a video, the latter in posting the ticket. All the constructive stuff that could be said has been said.
I once left a medium armor in public locker in ECC near repair station so that anyone could change and repair their armor. But somebody stole it! I guess I should have reported him and asked for a ban! /sarcasm
If you leave things on public itās either stupid or provocation.
